Originally posted by BloodRain
How far would people say Kratos is stronger then Bay by? Because head-butting a skyscraper a good distance would make her damn strong.
I always under the impression that Bayonetta did that with a kick especially how she charged up for it. But after seeing the cutscene, she does headbutt.
If she can knock away something that large with her head, she can hurt Kratos with her arms and legs (and ass).
Originally posted by BloodRain
How far would people say Kratos is stronger then Bay by? Because head-butting a skyscraper a good distance would make her damn strong.
She can hurt him obviously.
Yet Kratos regularly reacts to lightning bolts thrown by Zeus himself, so he'll be able to react to Bayonetta's attacks, who is nowhere near as fast as Lightning thrown by Zeus (though she can react to Lightning as well apparently)...how good is her time manip again?
His palms can also parry sword swings from someone roughly as strong as himself. (which Bayonetta isn't)
Originally posted by Burning thought
He cant catch lightning bolts in canon, not natural ones anyway. Sky scraper+PSI of a sword at speeds would slice Kratos like putty. And even if Kratos can react to bullts, his body cant.
Zeus is far stronger than Bayonetta, yet Kratos has no problems with parrying his sword swings. 😐
Because the being who creates lightning bolts cannot toss proper lightning bolts at Kratos right? Kratos reacts to and reflects Lightning bolts thrown by Zeus in their fight.
Hell, a lightning bolt thrown by Zeus which wounded Gaia did not wound Kratos.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI am utterly confident Bayonetta cannot so much as harm Kratos.
Shes already won, she has a vast array of powers from reforming from bats when harmed to freezing time (and being fast enough without freezing time) that would render Kratos quite useless. Chances are she blows his eyes out with her guns and then blitzes him from behind, sticking her sword through his head.
Zeus is roughly as strong as Kratos, who stopped himself from being crushed by both Atlas and Cronos, two gargantuan titans, one holding up the Earth's crust, the other has been carrying the equivelant of a mountain on his back four thousands of years. Kratos was able to block the Blade of Olympus (You know, the weapon that in a weaker form ended the Titan War with a single attack?) with his hands, that is far more power than what Bayonetta is capable of putting out.
Freezing time I will admit is a problem, but Kratos' reaction-time is not so different from Bayonetta's, he can handle her speed.
Originally posted by BloodRainLet me put it this way.
How far would people say Kratos is stronger then Bay by? Because head-butting a skyscraper a good distance would make her damn strong.
Titans are heavier than skyscrapers, due to being far larger, and being comprised of a nigh-indestructible, rocklike material.
Mountain-sized castles and the Earth's crust are heavier than skyscrapers as well.
Atlas holds up the Earth's crust, and Cronos has been carrying said mountain sized object on his back, both for thousands of years.
Kratos stopped himself from being crushed by both.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtSo the being to whom lightning owes its very existence cannot create a natural lightning bolt?
He cant catch lightning bolts in canon, not natural ones anyway. Sky scraper+PSI of a sword at speeds would slice Kratos like putty. And even if Kratos can react to bullts, his body cant.
I loled.
Blade of Olympus wielded by Zeus is far more powerful, Bayonetta cannot harm him in any signifigant fashion.
Originally posted by BloodRainIt would not be near the damage output compared to a blow from Zeus with the Blade of Olympus. Which Kratos blocked with his hands.
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If her strength is above knocking skyscrapers about and that strength can move faster then bullets, the damage output will be high. Enough to take down Kratos.
Just putting out another reaction time feat for Kratos that hardly anyone seems to remember or know about.
When he beat Persephone she exploded like 5 feet in front of him and he was able to easily block it in time with Helios' Shield. Explosions can be up to 23 times the speed of sound by the way depending on how volatile they are, and judging by the size of the explosion (severed a giant pillar that was holding up the world), I'll wager it was right at that max value.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Zeus is far stronger than Bayonetta, yet Kratos has no problems with parrying his sword swings. 😐Because the being who creates lightning bolts cannot toss proper lightning bolts at Kratos right? Kratos reacts to and reflects Lightning bolts thrown by Zeus in their fight.
Hell, a lightning bolt thrown by Zeus which wounded Gaia did not wound Kratos.
Zeus is nowhere near as fast, strength+PSI of a sword would slice Kratos like paper.
I am sure he can toss real lightning, but the thing is, he never did against Kratos at least not in canon. In their fight he uses the golden fleece and gameplay mechanics, and the blasts launched by Zeus were not real lightning.
The one thrown at Gaia was actually real lightning but it never hit Kratos so I dont know what your trying to prove here...it was not even aimed at him and he did not dodge it in any sense of the word...
Originally posted by NemeBro
I am utterly confident Bayonetta cannot so much as harm Kratos.Zeus is roughly as strong as Kratos, who stopped himself from being crushed by both Atlas and Cronos, two gargantuan titans, one holding up the Earth's crust, the other has been carrying the equivelant of a mountain on his back four thousands of years. Kratos was able to block the Blade of Olympus (You know, the weapon that in a weaker form ended the Titan War with a single attack?) with his hands, that is far more power than what Bayonetta is capable of putting out.
Freezing time I will admit is a problem, but Kratos' reaction-time is not so different from Bayonetta's, he can handle her speed.
You should not be, if she can headbutt a skyscraper, move at ridiculous speed with Kratos frozen helpless and has a sword edge which would increase her PSI many times over Kratos will be sliced to piecies. Close range pushing of the sword does not equel Bayonetta moving at her ridiculous speeds which would multiply her PSI.
Originally posted by Burning thought1. Zeus is just as fast in reactions as Kratos, is able to reach above the clouds in mere seconds in flight, and can literally attack Kratos by turning into lightning. Zeus is also far stronger than Bayonetta, far stronger, and wields a sword that makes Bayonetta's look like shit.
Zeus is nowhere near as fast, strength+PSI of a sword would slice Kratos like paper.I am sure he can toss real lightning, but the thing is, he never did against Kratos at least not in canon. In their fight he uses the golden fleece and gameplay mechanics, and the blasts launched by Zeus were not real lightning.
The one thrown at Gaia was actually real lightning but it never hit Kratos so I dont know what your trying to prove here...it was not even aimed at him and he did not dodge it in any sense of the word...
You should not be, if she can headbutt a skyscraper, move at ridiculous speed with Kratos frozen helpless and has a sword edge which would increase her PSI many times over Kratos will be sliced to piecies. Close range pushing of the sword does not equel Bayonetta moving at her ridiculous speeds which would multiply her PSI.
2. Lol prove this statement. Electricity moves at the same speed regardless, and those were certainly bolts of lightning.
3. You mean the one in the beginning? That one was far too powerful to block or dodge.
4. Headbutting a skyscraper is nowhere near Kratos' strength feats... Keeping Atlas and Cronos from crushing him, and knocking a Titan off Mount Olympus with a single attack. The sword edge's PSI would not be anything compared to an attack from the far stronger Zeus' Blade of Olympus, and it was not pushing, it was a full swing, keep in mind this is the sword that easily disemboweled Cronos and ended the Titan War in a weaker form.
Also, Cosmic, found another possible speed feat.
Am I the only one who thinks it appears time has stopped when Kratos goes from tentacle to tentacle of Poseidon to free Gaia's fist? At 1:45. I don't know what is up with the music, but visually is the best quality vid I found.