The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

Started by Ushgarak26 pages

My posts are hardly brimming over with hate and bile. Like I say, the biggest issue here is that some of you simply do not like being challenged, even sensibly. And sometimes impatience with clearly illogical and unreasonable viewpoints is justified.

Still, there we go. I don't want to drag this off topic. We all know why he is right handed anyway. I submit that it is not a very big deal.

No, yours were not fair and reasonable- and I am telling you that officially, so that you may know to turn down your attitude there in future. Nor did I miss any points- I saw your points throughout only all too well. Your extremely foolish comments like "you've never fought a left hander"- a comment as breathtaking in its irrelevance and unintelligible as it was in its attempt at being provocative- speaks volumes.

Why, yes, Ush, I exist solely to provoke you and cause you grief. 😐 I'm totally not illustrating, in the simplest manner possible, the truth in Darth Jello's comment. I simply wish to emasculate you, and the reason I keep responding to the mod, who continues to threaten repurcussions for doing so, is not because I disagree with what he's saying, or feel that he's twisting my points, I simply am a confrontational douchebag.

😐 Nah, man. You continually read my posts, and with determination pick out or twist the parts you want while ignoring that there is truth to being a lefty being an advantage, especially in a sword fight, and that Link is a legendary swordsman. You then choose to focus on repeating how nonsensical my posts are, simply because they disagree with yours, and therefore must obviously be 100% wrong, because you're infallible, and have "made no mistakes".

Pardon, but, uh. I disagree. 😐 Also, you've somehow turned our appreciation of a unique character trait into something we're demanding in gameplay, which is not the case. the GC version of TP had Lefty Link, and was the canon version, it didn't sell as well as the Wii version, for obvious reasons, but is anyone condemning the Wii version, or even saying righty-Link in gameplay is a bad idea? No, these are conclusions you've drawn out of thin air in a method akin to a straw-man fallacy.

Also, dear boy, there was no conflict here at all, this thread was the picture of peace and love, until you started in with the condescending tone, which turned what should have been a minor disagreement, into a conflict. Know how many people that takes? Two. Both of us.

So, go ahead, swing TEH BAN HAMMERER, and give me my warning. 😐 I'm still going to disagree with you, and debate in my same civil manner, that you are wrong, and you really have no excuse for banning me for something you're just as much part and parcel of. 😬

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Still, there we go. I don't want to drag this off topic. We all know why he is right handed anyway. I submit that it is not a very big deal.
I think we agree here, can we stop dragging this so far away from a Zelda love-fest now?

What did you think of Cel shaded Link in Wind Waker, Ush? First thoughts I mean, not after you had played it.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I became ambidextrous for this very reason.

I'm trying to use my left hand a lot more. 🤣

Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
I'm trying to use my left hand a lot more. 🤣

It definitely doesn't hurt to be proficient.

I see myself abusing the hell out of the sword beams in this game.

1. Link was created as a lefty because Shigeru Miyamoto is left-handed and Link was originally a representation of him in childhood.

2. The ability to switch character models is IMPERATIVE for hand-eye coordination for a lot of people. I found the wii twilight princess and punch out! completely unplayable with the wii controls for these reasons (that and I've never met a wii that correctly interprets a southpaw stance.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Why, yes, Ush, I exist solely to provoke you and cause you grief. 😐 I'm totally not illustrating, in the simplest manner possible, the truth in Darth Jello's comment. I simply wish to emasculate you, and the reason I keep responding to the mod, who continues to threaten repurcussions for doing so, is not because I disagree with what he's saying, or feel that he's twisting my points, I simply am a confrontational douchebag.

😐 Nah, man. You continually read my posts, and with determination pick out or twist the parts you want while ignoring that there is truth to being a lefty being an advantage, especially in a sword fight, and that Link is a legendary swordsman. You then choose to focus on repeating how nonsensical my posts are, simply because they disagree with yours, and therefore must obviously be 100% wrong, because you're infallible, and have "made no mistakes".

Pardon, but, uh. I disagree. 😐 Also, you've somehow turned our appreciation of a unique character trait into something we're demanding in gameplay, which is not the case. the GC version of TP had Lefty Link, and was the canon version, it didn't sell as well as the Wii version, for obvious reasons, but is anyone condemning the Wii version, or even saying righty-Link in gameplay is a bad idea? No, these are conclusions you've drawn out of thin air in a method akin to a straw-man fallacy.

Also, dear boy, there was no conflict here at all, this thread was the picture of peace and love, until you started in with the condescending tone, which turned what should have been a minor disagreement, into a conflict. Know how many people that takes? Two. Both of us.

So, go ahead, swing TEH BAN HAMMERER, and give me my warning. 😐 I'm still going to disagree with you, and debate in my same civil manner, that you are wrong, and you really have no excuse for banning me for something you're just as much part and parcel of. 😬

Ok, again, you are simply lying. Again, will remind you that you said, directly, there was no need to change what hand he used. It was that specific point I was referring to. You talking about me strawmanning in view of that is breathtaking- as is pretending your clumsy trolling is arguing in a civil manner- and it is part of a pattern of behaviour that I will not allow to continue.

Again, there is a clique mentality in here which is not acceptable, and those of you who think it is a good idea to keep using any desperate tactic to defend the indefensible need to be called out on it. This is a general indication to all that behaviour like that displayed by the posters above is not acceptable. Change your attitude, or you will be gone. If you are telling me you will never change, then I will ensure you are gone now.

And dare me to ban you again and I will. Bear that in mind carefully.

If you want to discuss this further, do it by PM.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Ok, again, you are simply lying. Again, will remind you that you said, directly, there was no need to change what hand he used. It was that specific point I was referring to. You talking about me strawmanning in view of that is breathtaking- as is pretending your clumsy trolling is arguing in a civil manner- and it is part of a pattern of behaviour that I will not allow to continue.

Again, there is a clique mentality in here which is not acceptable, and those of you who think it is a good idea to keep using any desperate tactic to defend the indefensible need to be called out on it. This is a general indication to all that behaviour like that displayed by the posters above is not acceptable. Change your attitude, or you will be gone. If you are telling me you will never change, then I will ensure you are gone now.

And dare me to ban you again and I will. Bear that in mind carefully.

If you want to discuss this further, do it by PM.

Don't care about the lefty argument, so don't worry about your PM box, there are a few things there I feel need to be addressed though. (And this thread had just gone back to being peaceful. >|)

1. Not lying, you sound like BT. I actually don't care about this whole disagreement. It /should/ have been a simple civil discussion, and you're about to ban me for disagreeing with you.

2. Was not a dare, was a plain statement. It takes two, there's a rule here about feeding trolls, if I am infact a troll, which doesn't seem likely since no one else in this thread's had any problem with me, you're just as responsible for this mess as I am.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
1. Link was created as a lefty because Shigeru Miyamoto is left-handed and Link was originally a representation of him in childhood.

2. The ability to switch character models is IMPERATIVE for hand-eye coordination for a lot of people. I found the wii twilight princess and punch out! completely unplayable with the wii controls for these reasons (that and I've never met a wii that correctly interprets a southpaw stance.


1. I actually did not know Shiggy was a lefty, but it's just one more awesome left-hander for the history books. 😎
2. You seem to be effected a lot more by this than I do, I've been able to adjust somewhat, but I would love a lefty character model.

When Mr. Miyamoto moves off the scene, I probably will too assuming no one exceptional takes up his mantle).

if Miyamotot retires, I tetire.

Damn all these lefties and their seemingly superior traits. >_>

Considering Link fight:

A. Mindless monsters who have no real skill for swordsmanship who do not give a damn what hand Link holds his sword in

and

B. Master swordsmen like Ganondorf whom are skilled to the point that Link's sword-arm matters not, along with having much greater reach as an advantage

Link being left-handed honestly would not amount to any real advantage in a sword-fight.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
if Miyamotot retires, I tetire.

Right on... Right on. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by NemeBro
Considering Link fight:

A. Mindless monsters who have no real skill for swordsmanship who do not give a damn what hand Link holds his sword in

and

B. Master swordsmen like Ganondorf whom are skilled to the point that Link's sword-arm matters not, along with having much greater reach as an advantage

Link being left-handed honestly would not amount to any real advantage in a sword-fight.


Speaking as a strong right fencer with experience fighting strong lefters (as a quirk of the sport, left-handed fighters are actually closer to 50% of fencers), it is not incredibly difficult to adjust to a leftie. One difference would be fighting with a shield, where it being bound to the left arm would make defense awkward, but Link faces the same minor disadvantage against right-handed fighters.

(I say "strong right" because I am left-handed, but right handed in sports and combat)

So, this makes two games with a focus on sword control: LoZ: Skyward Sword and Metal Gear Solid: Rising.

I want to sword beam a melon. "You can sword beam anything."

I love sword beams.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I want to sword beam a melon. "You can sword beam anything."

I love sword beams.

I'm gonna spam so hard. Also, Link retains the ability to jump attack in mid side-jump. Dashing looked pretty useful, too.

There may be a system to control spamming. Look at the sword beam in Majora's Mask.

Yeah, you need to hold the sword above your head for several seconds to charge, but that won't stop me from trying to use it at wildly inopportune moments.