Twilight vs Aliens

Started by SpadeKing7 pages

Originally posted by marwash22
@ Spadeking

How can you hate something without understanding it? This notion that since i read the Twilight books, i must like them, is asinine. I read the books and therefore, i know they're whack. Anyone who says Twilight is gay, but hasn't read the books or watched the movies, is a moron.

Also, my love for vampire and werewolves trumps the overall lameness of the Twilight series.

Easy, the same way 70% of the world hates something. ermm

If you truly hated the series you wouldn't be reading the entire book(s) or watching the movies either. When most people hate something they avoid any sort of involvement with it. Most people also don't read a 200+ page (how ever many it is) book about something they don't like either.

One question did you happen to watch all the movies and read all the books too?

@ SpadeKing

So your problem is with my use of the word "Hate"? Ok, i really don't like the way Stephenie Meyer portrays vampires and the dialogue is shitty... however, i really like the dynamics between Vampires/werewolves, so i read/watched for that reason. The crappy parts are outweighed by the fictional/supernatural elements. is that better?

Yep, read the books and watched both movies... not like i spent money on any of it though. I also watch True Blood, which has some really gay moments, but all that jazz is outweighed by the other stuff.

Originally posted by marwash22
You need to stop being so sensitive. If i call you a moron, it's just a way to drive home a point, it's not indicative of what i presume your intellectual state of mind to be... i dunno you well enough to make that assertion. If you are incapable of making the distinction, I'll refrain from kidding with you.

However, when did i insult you? If someone formulates an opinion before they even have first hand experience with the subject material, that person is either a moron, closeminded, or a bigot.

You're not making sense. Having an idea about something and experiencing it and coming to the same preconceived notion, is not the same thing. Unless you're the only person in the history of the world who always makes the correct presumptions.

If you had the opinion that Superman Returns was horrible, but never actually watched it to confirm your suspicion, that would make you a moron because you have no evidence to support the notion. The moron comment doesn't apply to you since you did in fact watch the movie.

Ohhhhhh, good point! Like the Nazi's or the KKK? yep, legions of people believe it, so it must be so. 😕

hence the term reality and perception.. 💃 besides we also use our common sense if a bunch of teen girls run up on you and tell you how great the movie was and an equal amount of your own guy friends run up and tell you it was gay and boring and the story drags on and on and on and that only girls and gay guys would like such a movie.. i would weight what they say with the clips i have seen and make an assumption and probably agree it may be gay targeted to teen girls and emo kids possibly along the same line as sisterhood of the traveling pants or yaya whatever its called and i wouldnt watch it.

my assumption would not be taht far off if i take all those things into account

Originally posted by marwash22
@ SpadeKing

So your problem is with my use of the word "Hate"? Ok, i really don't like the way Stephenie Meyer portrays vampires and the dialogue is shitty... however, i really like the dynamics between Vampires/werewolves, so i read/watched for that reason. The crappy parts are outweighed by the fictional/supernatural elements. is that better?

Yep, read the books and watched both movies... not like i spent money on any of it though. I also watch True Blood, which has some really gay moments, but all that jazz is outweighed by the other stuff.

No it was originally with the logic behind the vs. then you just brought up all the hate stuff. I just found it questionable on my first quote how you could hate the series and choose to read every single book and watch all the films and figured you were just covering up you actually like it or something.

I still don't how you go through all that just for vampires/werewolves considering there are better movies/books that involve those and that would be less painful to read/watch 😬

i read all the books as well but i sped read through them.. i wasnt planning on actually retaining everything i read but simply to see if the books were good which i would later reread much slowly if it turns out i liked it.. fortunately i did not like the book at all and put those memories inside my brain into the trash recycle bin.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
No it was originally with the logic behind the vs. then you just brought up all the hate stuff. I just found it questionable on my first quote how you could hate the series and choose to read every single book and watch all the films and figured you were just covering up you actually like it or something.
Oh, understood.

But no, i don't have a reason to lie about anything; especially to people who I don't even know. If i wanted to cover something up, i would have just kept quiet on all the topics relating to Twilight... that seems like a much better way to cover something up than showing knowledge of the subject. 😬

Originally posted by SpadeKing
I still don't how you go through all that just for vampires/werewolves considering there are better movies/books that involve those and that would be less painful to read/watch 😬
Well, it's not for you to understand. My interest level in vampires, witches and comic books, etc. have lead me to watch/read things i otherwise wouldn't have spent the time on. BTVS, Charmed, Twilight, True Blood, W.I.T.C.H., Pokemon, Digimon, HEX, The Vampire Diaries... the list goes on forever and they all have really lame aspects. Also, it's not like i avoid the higher quality material, it's just that my interest level is higher than yours so i can stand to tolerate the shiny vamps and horrible dialogue.

Good thing the opinions of others don't sway my own.

Originally posted by marwash22
I was gonna call you retarded, but then i remembered that you are not very well informed about Twilight vampires. I'll explain in full why TwiVamps won't be able to see a cloaked Predator.

When a predator is cloaked, they are surrounded in multiple spectrum's of color.

The human eye can see multiple spectrum's of light, this is why humans (Danny phucking Glover, as you phrased it), can see through the cloak if they concentrate.

Twilight vampire cannot see multiple spectrums of light. this is mentioned multiples times...

- They cannot see rainbows
- After Bella is turned, Ed tells her that their eyes work differently
- Bella's dad can see Renesmee's aura when she uses her power, but none of the vamps can.

LoL, you just pulled that out of your ass. As Gary said in Predator 2 'They bend light around themselves', meaning they essentially cover themselves with a reflection of their surroundings, thereby blending in, though it's an imperfect reflection; that's why they're not "invisible", as you claim.

You really need to pay attention when watching the Predator films. As always, your butt-hurt invigorates me.

Yes Robtard, getting facts wrong equals butthurt... You know me so well, it's like you're in my head. If the cloak works the way you say it does, Twilight wins.

lol, did you go and watch Predator 2?

Gary tells Danny when explaining what the Predator is and how they plan on catching it. Which didn't mak any logical sense, secret government spooks telling secrets about aliens to a detective.

No, I paid attention when watching the film, though I've seen it two, possibly three times.

aliens win because twilight is gay

Twilight is awesome.

If you were expecting a smug contradiction here, you're not getting it.

Twivamps murder the Alien and Predators.

The vampires would match the Predators it's their hometurf and the Predators are focused on the Alien. Those shoulder beams wont hit them...too fast.

And the Alien's acid.....sure the kids will figure that out when they take the first one down but they won't make the same mistake again, and even of they do get some on their arm they have great Healing Factors.

Too fast, Endurance rock hard and strength superior.

Regardless of what you think of the crappy fiction they own.

Originally posted by marwash22
First off, i already said that i would play along and only use what has been seen in the movies (provided the OP states this to be the rules), so chill out.

This isn't about you "playing along". It's the main rule of this movie vs forum.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t478590.html

MVF golden rule.

So regardless if something has happened in the other books...Until it's in the film version it can't be used.

Whether the OP states otherwise is irrelevant and arguing otherwise will most likely just get you banned if your constant abuse of other posters doesn't land you there first.

Originally posted by jaden101
This isn't about you "playing along". It's the main rule of this movie vs forum.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t478590.html

MVF golden rule.

So regardless if something has happened in the other books...Until it's in the film version it can't be used.

Whether the OP states otherwise is irrelevant and arguing otherwise will most likely just get you banned if your constant abuse of other posters doesn't land you there first.

Yawn! get over it, this has already been settled. I just hope everyone realizes how dumb a rule it is.

I agree and disagree, if you factor in that this is the MOVIE versus forum and that not everyone is going to read the literature behind any given character, it makes perfect sense and helps to hold back the bickering.

An early example was a thread involving Luke, which had one Star Wars fanboy bringing in the EU written material into the thread.

Where the Golden Rule falters, is when something is specifically said or implied in the film, yet not shown and it's not allowed.

Originally posted by marwash22
Yawn! get over it, this has already been settled. I just hope everyone realizes how dumb a rule it is.

Obviously not been settled because you just said you'd ignore the rule.

But seeing as you're clearly baiting...Consider yourself reported.

lulz. think and do what you must.

I said i would obey the rule; but it should be noted that, the rule (as it pertains to Twilight) is stupid considering it's a fact that there are two more Twilight movies (yet to be released) that directly follow along with the books. Saying the facts from the book are invalid is ludicrous when they will all be seen onscreen in a month or so.

...and again, I lulz.

According to DDM, who read the books, the New Moon film had facets that weren't part of the book and some facets of of the book didn't carry over into the film.

So it seems the exception you're trying to make for just Twilight, isn't valid to begin with.

Originally posted by Robtard
According to DDM, who read the books, the New Moon film had facets that weren't part of the book and some facets of of the book didn't carry over into the film.

So it seems the exception you're trying to make for just Twilight, isn't valid to begin with.

DDM?

Second hand information is very unreliable. The only things that change from book to film, is the way characters interact with each other, some of the personalities are a little off and the look isn't quite correct from how the characters are described in the books.

When it comes to powers/ abilities (which is what matters in these threads)... everything carries over, there's not one difference. So yeah, the exception is very much valid.