Teen Girl Punched in Face for Jaywalking

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I can't help, when watching the vid, seeing the cop being a bit indecisive after he punched the first chick. The second (Blue top) was resisting, and he had many chances to turn her around, hold her on the hood of the car, and cuff her. It's like he was realizing what he has just did and was afraid to act again.

even with the blue shirted chick. He didn't use any formal police restraints, he didn't actually use the sorts of holds he is trained to use. He just sort of fought with her until the other chick jumped in.

Maybe he didn't think she was going to struggle like she did, but damn, he totally let the situation get out of control, fast. I think he is fairly lucky there wasn't a larger meele when he hit her, there were a lot of teens there.

Originally posted by inimalist
even with the blue shirted chick. He didn't use any formal police restraints, he didn't actually use the sorts of holds he is trained to use. He just sort of fought with her until the other chick jumped in.

Maybe he didn't think she was going to struggle like she did, but damn, he totally let the situation get out of control, fast. I think he is fairly lucky there wasn't a larger meele when he hit her, there were a lot of teens there.

I can imagine what I would be thinking if I were the cop. I'd be afraid of the crowd jumping in.

If anyone is to blame here it's the city, for improper training, not the cop.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's relevant because the Seattle incident started out as a simple jaywalking stop.

In one of the vids I posted, a simple traffic stop turns into a shootout.

Point I am trying to make is shit happens.

"Shit happens" can be used to justify anything. In California there is a big hubbub going on because a BART cop arrested a dude, put him in handcuffs, threw him to the ground, then pulled out his gun and shot the handcuffed dude in the back of the head. For no reason.

Should I, then, pull out my gun and shoot the next police officer who tries to talk to me, in the face? Because after all apparently "shit happens" and thus when I shot the cop it was in self-defense. Right?

Absolutely not. =\ You can not act based upon what might happen. The reason why being a police officer is not for everyone is because even Police can not act based upon what might happen. If a Cop walks up to a pulled over car and sees an AK-47 pointed at his face, then he acts. But he doesn't pull out his gun and unload on the car before he even walks up to "just in case" the guy might have an AK-47 in his lap, and a Cop doesn't take a teenage girl and choke slam her onto the hood of a car "just in case" she might have a handgun in her panties. It doesn't work like that.

Originally posted by Kinneary
When resisting, isn't that what they're supposed to assume? That they could be in very real danger?

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
"Shit happens" can be used to justify anything. In California there is a big hubbub going on because a BART cop arrested someone, put them in handcuffs, threw them to the ground, then pulled out their gun and shot that restrained person in the back of the head. For no reason.

Should I, then, pull out my gun and shoot the next police officer who tries to talk to me, in the face? Because after all apparently "shit happens" and thus when I shot the cop it was in self-defense. Right?

Absolutely not. =\ You can not act based upon what might happen. The reason why being a police officer is not for everyone is because even Police can not act based upon what might happen. If a Cop walks up to a pulled over car and sees an AK-47 pointed at his face, then he acts. But he doesn't pull out his gun and unload on the car before he even walks up to "just in case" the guy might have an AK-47 in his lap, and a Cop doesn't take a teenage girl and choke slam her onto the hood of a car "just in case" she might have a handgun in her panties. It doesn't work like that.

Shit happens. Not all cops are bad. There is good and bad in everyone, not just cops.

The world is a ****ed up place, man. Shit reply, I know, but it's still true.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
"Shit happens" can be used to justify anything. In California there is a big hubbub going on because a BART cop arrested someone, put them in handcuffs, threw them to the ground, then pulled out their gun and shot that restrained person in the back of the head. For no reason.

Should I, then, pull out my gun and shoot the next police officer who tries to talk to me, in the face? Because after all apparently "shit happens" and thus when I shot the cop it was in self-defense. Right?

Absolutely not. =\ You can not act based upon what might happen. The reason why being a police officer is not for everyone is because even Police can not act based upon what might happen. If a Cop walks up to a pulled over car and sees an AK-47 pointed at his face, then he acts. But he doesn't pull out his gun and unload on the car before he even walks up to "just in case" the guy might have an AK-47 in his lap, and a Cop doesn't take a teenage girl and choke slam her onto the hood of a car "just in case" she might have a handgun in her panties. It doesn't work like that.

EDIT: And hell, the girl has apologized. As in, she has admitted she was wrong. Why are people trying to champion her cause when the person who was there and who knows the most about what led up to the confrontation admitted she was wrong?

Racist, sexist, poorly trained, broke under pressure, or put on a show for the camera.

Whatever the reason (excuse) for punching an unarmed girl who was only annoying at worst, he should be stripped of his badge and filling out job applications.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
👆 If the suspect has nothing to hide, then why resist? Jaywalking tickets can be contested. I got a ticket for a broken taillight a few years back. I had the court date reset twice, and when the date came, it was dismissed.

Because she must be carring dime and nickel bags of pot.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Because she must be carring dime and nickel bags of pot.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Or a .357.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Aren't you from LA?

Shouldn't you know that best?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Shouldn't you know that best?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Should I?

Well, yeah, you asked yourself whether you were from LA

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hey, how's quitting KMC forever going?

Boring. Boring as hell.

As sad as that is. 🙁

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, yeah, you asked yourself whether you were from LA

lol, yup.....fail.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Racist, sexist, poorly trained, broke under pressure, or put on a show for the camera.

Whatever the reason (excuse) for punching an unarmed girl who was only annoying at worst, he should be stripped of his badge and filling out job applications.

**** you Bardock.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Boring. Boring as hell.

As sad as that is. 🙁

That is pretty sad, I can relate though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
**** you Bardock.

Thats Quiero Mota and not Bardock......WTF?

That's not Bardock...

Originally posted by The Nuul
lol, yup.....fail.