Originally posted by lord xyz
"A man should not lay with another man as he does with a woman"or something like that. Technically, that does leave room for unconsummated gay marriage.
Most anyone trying to hide their own intolerance and hatred of homosexuality under the guise of "Leviticus 18:22 says blah, no ****, blah, blah" is a complete imbecile and a very poor liar. This is a fact.
Originally posted by Robtard
(when was the last time an adulterer was charged with the crime anyhow?)
June of 2010:
http://www.urbanswirl.com/news/opinion/2514-woman-charged-with-adultery.html
So as you can see, adultery crimes are still enforced and are far from being Blue Laws.
Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough, 'homosexual marriage', 'marriage between same sex' or what have you, anywhere? Leviticus is both done away with (if we're talking about Christians) and it speaks only of sexual contact between a man and man.
So they can get married, but not carryout the sexual act?
C'mon, where's the sense in that? It can be logically deduced that gay marriage is anti-Biblical. Unless you believe Leviticus can actually be "interpreted" to mean "Gays can get married, but...uh, they just can't do it once they get married.".
Originally posted by Robtard
Most anyone trying to hide their own intolerance and hatred of homosexuality under the guise of "Leviticus 18:22 says blah, no ****, blah, blah" is a complete imbecile and a very poor liar. This is a fact.
What about people who are honestly Bible-believers and genuinely don't support gay marriage for the sole reason that the Bible says so? They DO exist, you know. Do you have more respect for them, then blatant haters who just hide behind Leviticus?
Relgious people should quietly worship thier ficticious Gods behind closed doors, so they don´t spread their disalusionment. Not only that, church bells or moaning mullahs piss me off, especially early in the morning when I´m sleeping off a long night.
Why should other people suffer because of some peoples insecurity based fantasy worlds.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Relgious people should quietly worship thier ficticious Gods behind closed doors, so they don´t spread their disalusionment. Not only that, church bells or moaning mullahs piss me off, especially early in the morning when I´m sleeping off a long night.Why should other people suffer because of some peoples insecurity based fantasy worlds.
If only that were reality..unfortunately beliefs are a means of organizing behavior. If people are having a discussion about politics for example they will undoubtedly be sharing their individual beliefs.
Originally posted by Robtard
Japan's more than happy to have US military bases on its soil. It constantly reminds China why they can't just steam-roll over Japan, as they REALLY want to.
China's been off the map as a real enemy since the early 1970's, after Nixon opened up China and the economic alliance began. It's North Korea that barks periodically about Japan (just like Iran spouts off about Israel.)
China only wants apologies & acknowledgments from Japan for WW2. It's defending their rights to Tibet, and the presence of Taiwan (the last station house of old Nationalist China) that they get hot under the collar about.
I think many in Japan have wanted the USA and other western allies to leave long ago; just like the people in the former West Germany got tired of the American tanks always around.
Originally posted by roughrider
China's been off the map as a real enemy since the early 1970's, after Nixon opened up China and the economic alliance began. It's North Korea that barks periodically about Japan (just like Iran spouts off about Israel.)
China only wants apologies & acknowledgments from Japan for WW2. It's defending their rights to Tibet, and the presence of Taiwan (the last station house of old Nationalist China) that they get hot under the collar about.
I think many in Japan have wanted the USA and other western allies to leave long ago; just like the people in the former West Germany got tired of the American tanks always around.
Yes, the least Japanese can do is apologize and admit what they did in Harbin was inhuman and disgusting.
Of course that will never happen, Japan shared its research with USA in exchange for burring this atrocious acts against the Chinese civilians forever.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yes, the least Japanese can do is apologize and admit what they did in Harbin was inhuman and disgusting.
Of course that will never happen, Japan shared its research with USA in exchange for burring this atrocious acts against the Chinese civilians forever.
How responsible can they feel? The government that performed those action was dissolved as part of their surrender.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
June of 2010:http://www.urbanswirl.com/news/opinion/2514-woman-charged-with-adultery.html
So as you can see, adultery crimes are still enforced and are far from being Blue Laws.
So they can get married, but not carryout the sexual act?
C'mon, where's the sense in that? It can be logically deduced that gay marriage is anti-Biblical. Unless you believe Leviticus can actually be "interpreted" to mean "Gays can get married, but...uh, they just can't do it once they get married.".
What about people who are honestly Bible-believers and genuinely don't support gay marriage for the sole reason that the Bible says so? They DO exist, you know. Do you have more respect for them, then blatant haters who just hide behind Leviticus?
Fair enough.
Hey, I'm just saying if you're going to hide behind the bible, then show where it says it explicitly. But I do see your point.
Again, using Leviticus as the reason is BS for most people, at least Christians; it also supports my belief that they're just haters and intolerant of difference; not holy-rollers. Leviticus names many a thing that's an abomination and/or sin in the eyes of God, from eating selfish, cutting your beard, wearing multiply types of cloth, growing more than two crops etc. Yet we don't see mother-****ers ranting about people who eat shrimp cocktails and shave.
I've yet to meet one that I believed was genuine, but yes, I would have if that were the case. I also would have more respect for the ones that hide behind the bible if they just came out and said "I just don't like ****", "I find gays gross" etc and not scapegoated the bible.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How responsible can they feel? The government that performed those action was dissolved as part of their surrender.
Japanese government denies existence of those camps and has refused an apology for Harbin. Not only that, Japan still teaches some lala WWII history that never happened painting Japan not as an aggressor but as a liberator and what not.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How responsible can they feel? The government that performed those action was dissolved as part of their surrender.
This is true, can't blame children for the actions of their parents/grandparents. One Japanese doctor/researcher that was involved with the murdering Chinese and Korean civilians for biological warfare testing has formally apologized for his actions and he tours around speaking of the wrongdoings committed.
Germany did formally apologize for Nazi Germany, if that counts for anything.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessJapanese government denies existence of those camps and has refused an apology for Harbin. Not only that, Japan still teaches some lala WWII history that never happened painting Japan not as an aggressor but as a liberator and what not.
I've heard that before, are you absolutely certain it's true? If so, how sad.
Originally posted by Robtard
This is true, can't blame children for the actions of their parents/grandparents. One Japanese doctor/researcher that was involved with the murdering Chinese and Korean civilians for biological warfare testing has formally apologized for his actions and he tours around speaking of the wrongdoings committed.Germany did formally apologize for Nazi Germany, if that counts for anything.
Yes!! I have heard he actually went to China, Harbin and at the actual place to apologize to the survivors. I don't know anything other than that, though.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yes, the least Japanese can do is apologize and admit what they did in Harbin was inhuman and disgusting.
Of course that will never happen, Japan shared its research with USA in exchange for burring this atrocious acts against the Chinese civilians forever.
you should check out "deadly silence", a book about biological research programs post ww2. it does border on the conspiritorial side at times, but only because of the admitted "follow the money" bias the authors admit to.
sorry for the OT
Originally posted by inimalist
you should check out "deadly silence", a book about biological research programs post ww2. it does border on the conspiritorial side at times, but only because of the admitted "follow the money" bias the authors admit to.sorry for the OT
Thanks for the heads up, I will deff look it up. I must admit though, the whole follow the money thing applies to a lot of things and people. Money makes the world go around may not be such a far fetched statement afterall....🙁