Originally posted by 753
The ones with kitty aren't racist, they're denouncing it, but the cyclops one was quite the faux pas. Where is it from?
From the look of the art and the costumes, I'd say it was the Roy Thomas-Neal Adams days of the early 1970's.
But Camel Jockey and Towelhead are supposed to be polite substitutes for terms like Dune Coon & Sand Nig*er; remember the instructions given to the soldiers in Three Kings? 😛
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I love the middle one
its weird, its like the further back you go, the more willing authors were to face the racial issue head on. I guess it makes sense in terms of the civil rights movement, but idk.
My remark about Gerber was because in the 70s, he was writing Man-Thing, a character with no dialogue, thoughts, or really personality, and yet Gerber was able to tackle the issue of race a couple of times, in a way that did it as much justice as a comic book really can (ie, not just pages of text).
Something has changed. Like, again with the Gerber example, in the 70s, he was doing stories that challanged all sides of the vietnam war in a very mature and high-brow way (though with lots of fight scenes and 'splosions), yet, these days, the only commentary we get about war or politics is sound bite at best, and often nearly supportive of the adminstration (like: "Superman says slap a jap", only about arabs).
Hell, even this new "1 month to live" series Marvel just started. Its like, it could be amazing, it has all the elements, and then we find out that instead of being a story about characters and personal hardship, its Mr. Negative and his convoluted super villian plot to manipulate small town america and keep the common man down... So basically, just like every other comic story...
Do you know the years/authors on those scans?
/rant, sorry, not the comic book forum, been thinking about this a bit though... so there is a Mosque being built in the rubble of the twin towers out of the bodies of the victim's families or something? Tax dollars?
Originally posted by inimalist
I love the middle oneits weird, its like the further back you go, the more willing authors were to face the racial issue head on. I guess it makes sense in terms of the civil rights movement, but idk.
My remark about Gerber was because in the 70s, he was writing Man-Thing, a character with no dialogue, thoughts, or really personality, and yet Gerber was able to tackle the issue of race a couple of times, in a way that did it as much justice as a comic book really can (ie, not just pages of text).
Something has changed. Like, again with the Gerber example, in the 70s, he was doing stories that challanged all sides of the vietnam war in a very mature and high-brow way (though with lots of fight scenes and 'splosions), yet, these days, the only commentary we get about war or politics is sound bite at best, and often nearly supportive of the adminstration (like: "Superman says slap a jap", only about arabs).
Hell, even this new "1 month to live" series Marvel just started. Its like, it could be amazing, it has all the elements, and then we find out that instead of being a story about characters and personal hardship, its Mr. Negative and his convoluted super villian plot to manipulate small town america and keep the common man down... So basically, just like every other comic story...
Do you know the years/authors on those scans?
Chris Claremont wrote the last two (Uncanny X-Men 200's) as well as a xenophobic and racist Iceman in Giant-Sized X-Men 1.
Roy Thomas IRRC wrote the first one. It's from one of Uncanny X-Men 60'ish issues I think, Havok is captured by the Living Monolith.
Morrison had Xorneto try and force Dust to denounce her religion at the beginning of Planet X.
Originally posted by inimalist
weeeeeeird...Thats not bad though, and that is more recent, ya?
Yeah 2004, just looked at it again. He wasn't trying to get her to denounce it he was trying to get her to renounce it.
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3305/30799754.jpg
Also found this, quite funny:
