Cross Genre Match #3: Luffy vs Wolverine

Originally posted by NemeBro
You can name like two characters who can actually do a proper mindrape. 😐

A powerful Logia fruit user like Enel could solo the entire Naruto verse, being as fast as electricity and able to casually bust multiple city blocks with a single lightning attack, with his flying arc Maxim he was able to cover a country with lightning bolts, was able to vaporise an island with a single ball of lightning, and was hyped as being able to do the same to the country.

Enel is not even the strongest One Piece character.

You seem to either highly overestimate the speed of the Narutoverse or severely underestimate the speed of Wally West if you think it takes someone as fast as him to effortlessly crush Naruto without him being able to stop him.

Two character's, though? Uh, no. When i said mindrape, i meant having their head phucked with. The weakest Genjutsu user can do damage if the opponent isn't familiar with illusions. Is there anything akin to Genjutsu in the One Piece-verse?

Based on power-set, Superman could solo the entire Naruto-verse, but he'd get his ask kicked on account of not being familiar with genjutsu, clones and such.

Originally posted by marwash22
I'm not underestimating anything. I haven't even made a definitive statement about what you wrote; i simply asked a question because I'm not familiar with the series and have no idea how fast the characters are.

Two character's, though? Uh, no. When i said mindrape, i meant having their head phucked with. The weakest Genjutsu user can do damage if the opponent isn't familiar with illusions. Is there anything akin to Genjutsu in the One Piece-verse?

Based on power-set, Superman could solo the entire Naruto-verse, but he'd get his ask kicked on account of not being familiar with genjutsu, clones and such.

I really don't see how any Naruto verse character even has the damage output to hurt Superman in any real way.

^ Superman was just an example... perhaps a bad one considering his particular power-set, but the point should have been legible.

Kings Disposition is akin to mindrape more like high level spiritual pressure though

Wolverine would be hard pressed to beat Luffy at the very start of the manga. 🙁

I think Naruto is likely faster than Luffy. In the manga at least - outside of filler in the Anime fights in Naruto are slow and poorly animated. They animate individual hand-seals... even though they are supposed to happening too fast to see, but whatever. Kakashi had a speed feat better than anything in One Piece back in the Gaiden. In the manga he killed half a dozen Bunshin spread out over a huge area seemingly at the same time. Sure, Naruto himself doesn't really have any speed feats, but I attribute that to all the ninjas currently being more or less at the same relative speed levels, which makes it hard to relay speed. They are currently on a level of speed where the Sharingan isn't the massive advantage it was back at the Valley of the End fight, where Naruto was pretty much seen to be moving in super slow mo and couldn't land a hit, so that should say something. Sage mode or not Naruto is almost certainly faster than Chunin Exam Lee and a 13 year old Kakashi, and IMO Lee is faster than anyone in One Piece. Lucci was fast, but I really don't think he was as fast as upper level Naruto characters.

God Enel is faster than Lee or Kakshi and Luffybeat the tar out of him even before getting that gear 2 upgrade

Luffy beat Enel because he was a rubber man. Anyway Lucci was much faster than Enel (Enel would beat him for sure, but Lucci was faster) and I don't think he was even quite up to Lee's speed.

The fact that he was able to hit somebody with Enels speed is amazing even though he canceled out Enels mantra ability. Enel is way faster than Lucci he's about as fast as Kizaru which is lightspeed

Originally posted by iceman24567
The fact that he was able to hit somebody with Enels speed is amazing even though he canceled out Enels mantra ability. Enel is way faster than Lucci he's about as fast as Kizaru which is lightspeed

Enel moved at the speed of lightning, which isn't close to light speed.

Consider this. Haku moved at the speed of light in his Demon Mirrors. Sasuke's shitty two tomoe Sharingan was able to track him. Raikage was so fast that Sasuke's complete Sharingan had trouble tracking his movements.

Now I'm off to Canada Day celebrations!!!!!!!!!!

yo, we gotta get raikage's ass in one of these fights

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Enel moved at the speed of lightning, which isn't close to light speed.

Consider this. Haku moved at the speed of light in his Demon Mirrors. Sasuke's shitty two tomoe Sharingan was able to track him. Raikage was so fast that Sasuke's complete Sharingan had trouble tracking his movements.

Now I'm off to Canada Day celebrations!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by marwash22

Based on power-set, Superman could solo the entire Naruto-verse, but he'd get his ask kicked on account of not being familiar with genjutsu, clones and such.

Actually superman would easily solo the whole naruto-verse and not break a sweat while doing it.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Actually superman would easily solo the whole naruto-verse and not break a sweat while doing it.

Originally posted by marwash22
How is it that you read and replied to this comment, but missed the one where i said Superman was a poor example due to his particular power-set?

lol is that a serious question?hmm lets see.......id say thats because i decided to reply to this particular comment as i saw it, and it preceded the other one? Oh and also the fact that i could care less about the general discussion and was just correcting a piece of misinformation i saw. 🙂

How would Genjutsu work on Superman?

So you guy's agree to a Wolverine vs Dr. Jackal match?

I have only seen One Piece up to Luffy's second fight with Rob Lucci.

Going by those feats Naruto would hand him his ass, as would most of the top tier Naruto characters.

Originally posted by iceman24567
The fact that he was able to hit somebody with Enels speed is amazing even though he canceled out Enels mantra ability. Enel is way faster than Lucci he's about as fast as Kizaru which is lightspeed

One thing I'd like to point out, is Luffy did not cancel out Enel's mantra, he was simply able to overcome his Logia intagability. Enel still used mantra to his advantage during their bout quite a bit.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
One thing I'd like to point out, is Luffy did not cancel out Enel's mantra, he was simply able to overcome his Logia intagability. Enel still used mantra to his advantage during their bout quite a bit.

The rebound gatling was the only time Luffy actually canceled Enel's mantra, and Enel quickly wised up and dropped Luffy with the heated spear and the giant gold ball.