Black Adam vs Power Girl and Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Q99

Also, I think speed's about equal- Speed of Hermes = Speed of Mercury = Teth's speed. Diana's also got higher reflexes/arm speed than even her speed of hermes would imply. [/B]

Teth / BA doesn't have the speed of Mercury he has the speed of Huru ( Horus) courtesy of the deal Lady blaze (Shazam's daughter) did with the evil Egyptian gods in an attempt to pervert her fathers new champion his powers come from completely different gods.

it's still his greater durability ( not to mention healing factor (which is rediculous ) that will be too much for the pair of them. I just don't see how either one is going to be able to do enough damage to put him down. There's not even a guarrentee that WW's lasso will even affect him with his strength of the inner mind and immunity to magic from Mehen.

it's still his greater durability ( not to mention healing factor (which is rediculous ) that will be too much for the pair of them.

WW can hurt Superman, y'know.

There's not even a guarrentee that WW's lasso will even affect him with his strength of the inner mind and immunity to magic from Mehen.

Op doesn't allow lasso, but "What's your transformation word?" is a guaranteed win. The lasso worked on CM, twice.

Originally posted by Q99
WW can hurt Superman, y'know.

Op doesn't allow lasso, but "What's your transformation word?" is a guaranteed win. The lasso worked on CM, twice.

CM doesn't get any power from Mehen and doesn't have that power defense.

Based on who and what the lasso has effected, I find it sketchy to assume Black Adam would be able to resist it, especially considering it has effected Captain Marvel, who is his equal in power (albeit with slightly different abilities).

Originally posted by beatboks
Yeah which is the exact words I used in my post that BA topped ou OVER half light speed. So not sure why Abhi said Mach 500 isn't half the speed of light because I never said it was.

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Mach 500 isn't half the speed of light. Speed of light is Mach 890,000.

Actually the panel in which Jay went Light speed BA was no where to be seen.

Considering that WW could keep up with Jesse Quick when she entered the Speed force she's the one with a slight speed advantage here ( very slight) and she's a lot more prone to actually use speed than BA is.

Long story short, Jesse went near speed force and Diana travelling inside the wake/trail of Jesse's speed. They never broke into speed force.

Jay can nearly reach speed force too, its no big deal.

Based on this Jay is actually faster than Cap/Adam/Diana. The only being besides Barry/Wally who is faster than him is Superman who could stalemate him before he was upgraded in IC and then became faster than Jay.

I'd like to see where did Cap or wonder woman ever go near lightspeed on foot.

Abh

I'd like to see where did Cap or wonder woman ever go near lightspeed on foot.

Wonder Woman catches Jesse Quick at the edge of the speed force.

(Link, a few pics down)

Originally posted by h1a8
Well both Cap, Batman, DD, etc. has consistently beaten beings physically superior to them because of skill. I would say BA is less than twice as strong as Diana and I would say Diana is more than twice as skilled as BA. As far as combat speed goes, Diana has the better feats than BA. To be clear, I feel blow for blow BA would beat WW. But given her skill advantage she can manage to out hit him 3 to 1 or even greater. This IMO is the reason why I think she beats him.

OK now this at least sounds reasonable. Although your still wrong 😛

Originally posted by Q99

Wonder Woman catches Jesse Quick at the edge of the speed force.

(Page that it's from in case the link doesn't work)

Originally posted by zeel
OK now this at least sounds reasonable. Although your still wrong 😛

You're right, WW may be less strong, but there's no way she's half as strong, not going by her feats and judging by what she can do to Superman, her moon-and-earth pullings, and so on.

Diana does have a track record demonstrating going toe-to-toe with high heralds. Heck, she's gone HtH with Doomsday.

Originally posted by Q99
You're right, WW may be less strong, but there's no way she's half as strong, not going by her feats and judging by what she can do to Superman, her moon-and-earth pullings, and so on.

Diana does have a track record demonstrating going toe-to-toe with high heralds. Heck, she's gone HtH with Doomsday.

I'm going to point out that Black Adam was also traveling in the speedster's wake in his feat. They're very similar feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She's gone h2h against doomsday? Wut?

Yep. Doomsday War, when Brainiac was in control.

First DD one-shotted J'onn, then:

Page 1
(There's a page in between here where he grabs Plas and stars tripping him up)
Page 2
Page 3
Page 4

Not a win by any means, to state the obvious, but quite impressive toughness feats, and she lands .

There's also the time when she faced a clone of Doomsday who not only had the full power, but who's strength continually increased.
here

(Eventually she got the gauntlet of Atlas and shattered it)

Originally posted by Q99
I'm going to point out that Black Adam was also traveling in the speedster's wake in his feat. They're very similar feats.

Yep. Doomsday War, when Brainiac was in control.

First DD one-shotted J'onn, then:

Page 1
(There's a page in between here where he grabs Plas and stars tripping him up)
Page 2
Page 3
Page 4

Not a win by any means, to state the obvious, but quite impressive toughness feats, and she lands .

There's also the time when she faced a clone of Doomsday who not only had the full power, but who's strength continually increased.
here

(Eventually she got the gauntlet of Atlas and shattered it)

Doomsday wrecked her alongside J'onn, Kyle and Wally before that in the time Orion reached there a few minutes after them.

http://i.imgur.com/RvXDuTs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ei7FN1t.jpg

After that he was purposely toying with the heroes to lure Superman there.

When he wanted, he KTFO J'onn, Orion and Diana again simultaneously off panel as Huntress says it here.

Also that Doomsday clone was superman level strength initially and even he KTFO wonder woman in a few attacks. It wasn't untill the end of the fight in the second issue when he started increasing in strength and at that point Diana and Hercules combined couldn't stop him.

Mach 500 isn't half the speed of light. Speed of light is Mach 890,000.

You should be face palming, yourself. No where did I say that Mach 500 was half the speed of light. I said it was over half, which it is. speed of light is between Mach 850 and 890. Half of 850 is 425 and half of 890 is 445 and you know what 500 > than either 425 or 445 so I was correct. Why you find it so hard to do that math is beyond me even my 5 and 7 yr old hold den could work that out.

So your answer to my pointing out that BA was slower than Jay in that scan you like to use to say otherwise is to load another that shows the same thing only more so. When back in ancient Egypt BA was depicted even smaller against Jay than he was in the current time so even further in the back ground. When Jay reached light speed again no sign of BA ( the third panel in your own scan). I mean really these are pretty easy things to make out for comics readers. your own words say it ( and in caption) approached. He was well of the pace once again at below the 2/3 size by the time he was closer to light speed even further (1/2 size so way in distance) and again as Jay breaks that light speed barrier we see no sign of BA. By your reckoning this is also against a weaker slower Jay because he doesn't have any amping from rival ( haha).

OMG so because Jay was mildly amped by rival when they were talking about their plan before he ran home and said goodbye to Joan and ran back to perform the time skip you think he was still amped?? Whatever drugs you take I need to get me some cause life has to be a part for you. I suppose Jay was still amped after putting everything into his run through time to ancient Egypt too huh ?? If so that just makes Adam look even worse if he still couldn't keep up with an old man who'd expended that much.

I love how you twist the context of any scan so as to try and make it say what you want it to.

Originally posted by beatboks
You should be face palming, yourself. No where did I say that Mach 500 was half the speed of light. I said it was over half, which it is. speed of light is between Mach 850 and 890. Half of 850 is 425 and half of 890 is 445 and you know what 500 > than either 425 or 445 so I was correct. Why you find it so hard to do that math is beyond me even my 5 and 7 yr old hold den could work that out.

So your answer to my pointing out that BA was slower than Jay in that scan you like to use to say otherwise is to load another that shows the same thing only more so. When back in ancient Egypt BA was depicted even smaller against Jay than he was in the current time so even further in the back ground. When Jay reached light speed again no sign of BA ( the third panel in your own scan). I mean really these are pretty easy things to make out for comics readers. your own words say it ( and in caption) approached. He was well of the pace once again at below the 2/3 size by the time he was closer to light speed even further (1/2 size so way in distance) and again as Jay breaks that light speed barrier we see no sign of BA. By your reckoning this is also against a weaker slower Jay because he doesn't have any amping from rival ( haha).

OMG so because Jay was mildly amped by rival when they were talking about their plan before he ran home and said goodbye to Joan and ran back to perform the time skip you think he was still amped?? Whatever drugs you take I need to get me some cause life has to be a part for you. I suppose Jay was still amped after putting everything into his run through time to ancient Egypt too huh ?? If so that just makes Adam look even worse if he still couldn't keep up with an old man who'd expended that much.

I love how you twist the context of any scan so as to try and make it say what you want it to.

The speed of light in a vacuum corresponds to a Mach number of approximately 881,000 (relative to air at sea level).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_number#High-speed_flow_around_objects

I don't even know where you got this retarded idea that mach 890 is speed of light.

Yeah,no. You are just being dense again. Jay outright says that he was approaching lightspeed when Adam is just behind him in the scan I posted. You're reading too much in the scan with height difference and what not.

Mr. Terrific outright states that Jay was still amped. I don't know why you are outright discarding on panel proofs. He wasn't amped in ancient egypt and that's why Adam looked much closer to him when he approached speed of light.

Abh

He wasn't. He was specifically racing to give Jay his kinetic energy. Just read some JSA before you start spreading false myths.

... and he was doing so traveling in Jay's stream. Just because he was lending speed doesn't change that they were, physically, doing the same thing.

Doomsday wrecked her alongside J'onn, Kyle and Wally before that in the time Orion reached there a few minutes after them.

Yea, and note how very much harder it takes for him to take down Wondy than it did J'onn, or Orion for that matter, who was also taken out faster. It's still a good feat.

She references the earlier fight, how it was just a brief tussle, and how this time she wouldn't be holding back.

Originally posted by Q99
... and he was doing so traveling in Jay's stream. Just because he was lending speed doesn't change that they were, physically, doing the same thing.

She references the earlier fight, how it was just a brief tussle, and how this time she wouldn't be holding back.

These kind of feats are meaningless.

Martian Manjobber chokeslammed Doomsday?

Lol, Doomsday should have no sold him and broke his neck right then and there.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Martian Manjobber chokeslammed Doomsday?

Lol, Doomsday should have no sold him and broke his neck right then and there.

Its a non feat. When doomsday wanted, he KTFO Orion, J'onn and Diana simultaneously.

The instance Diana said was a scuffle and where she wasn't going all-out because she was too used to holding back

And he *did* KTFO J'onn, right before taking on Orion with only a bit more effort. Then Diana was actually

And her non holding back punches didn't even made Doomsday take a step back. J'onn tackled him to the ground before Doomsday pushed his and Orion's shit in together.

That's actually their *third* fight. The first was the off-screen one. The second one, DD simply one-shotted J'onn with no problem. After taking out Orion again. And then Diana was the only one who actually traded blows with him for awhile... at the end of which, she was *not* KTFO.

And sure, J'onn tackled DD later... one panel after DD'd been blasted by the Astro force. Kinda left that bit out.

WW's the only non-Superman in the entire story shown to be able to take a hit from him. And not just one, but repeated, even immediately after he took out multiple others.

Originally posted by Q99
The instance Diana said was a scuffle and where she wasn't going all-out because she was too used to holding back

WW's the only non-Superman in the entire story shown to be able to take a hit from him. And not just one, but repeated, even immediately after he took out multiple others.

http://i.imgur.com/a8gNHML.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ushsev4.jpg

This is the same doomsday who was strong enough to oneshot J'onn and Maxima together.

http://i.imgur.com/GXkEeof.jpg

Holy ****! Booster Gold and Blue Beetle are more durable than J'onn and Mxima!!!

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