Originally posted by carver9Surfer has taken planet busting attacks and thanos has (I think it was)2 or 3 shotted surfer.So yeah hes one-shotting freiza.
He aint touching him though and even then, its debatable if he is one shotting him when a kick through two mountains only tickled him and a spirit bomb that had all of the energy of everything in the universe only slowed him down.😕
Originally posted by carver9
Naah, all of those were nuclear blast and the Vegeta incident, he expelled all of the energy from within him which is kind of different than blasting him. It is more powerful.
All you have to base that on is looks though. 😬 If looks made that much of a difference, Wario from Super Smash Bros. Brawl can fart nukes.
Vegeta's explosion still only left a crater the size of itself. At his level it should have done a lot more than that. I have to say, it still is really hard to judge the power level of most of their energy based explosions.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Surfer has taken planet busting attacks and thanos has (I think it was)2 or 3 shotted surfer.So yeah hes one-shotting freiza.
Again, Thanos isnt one shotting frieza and the spirit bomb had all of the energy from everything in the solar system, that is more than a planet destroying attack.
I agree with you, Thanos is a beast, above high herald and in my opinion, I think he can give almost anyone of fight, especially with that genious mind of his but these are the reasons I am giving frieza the majority...
Energy output Frieza>Thanos (unless you ignore what frieza have done)
Speed Frieza>>>>>>Thanos
Fighting style Frieza>Thanos
Durability Thanos>Frieza (Still isnt one shotting him)
Strength Both doesnt have lifting feats but punching power Frieza>Thanos
If Frieza wanted he can stay in complete super speed mode throughout the fight and Thanos wouldnt have a defense against this unless he shields up.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
All you have to base that on is looks though. 😬 If looks made that much of a difference, Wario from Super Smash Bros. Brawl can fart nukes.Vegeta's explosion still only left a crater the size of itself. At his level it should have done a lot more than that. I have to say, it still is really hard to judge the power level of most of their energy based explosions.
Nappa nuclear blast destroyed EVERYTHING, Picollo nuke destroyed EVERYTHING along with friezas. If anything, it is more powerful than a nuke.
Originally posted by carver9That doesn't change the fact that thanos can one-shot freiza.
Again, Thanos isnt one shotting frieza and the spirit bomb had all of the energy from everything in the solar system, that is more than a planet destroying attack.I agree with you, Thanos is a beast, above high herald and in my opinion, I think he can give almost anyone of fight, especially with that genious mind of his but these are the reasons I am giving frieza the majority...
Energy output Frieza>Thanos (unless you ignore what frieza have done)
Speed Frieza>>>>>>Thanos
Fighting style Frieza>Thanos
Durability Thanos>Frieza (Still isnt one shotting him)
Strength Both doesnt have lifting feats but punching power Frieza>Thanos
If Frieza wanted he can stay in complete super speed mode throughout the fight and Thanos wouldnt have a defense against this unless he shields up.
"Destroying the Planet" early in the series of DBZ. Where Nappa destroyed a planet, piccolo destroying a moon, and Vegata attempting to destroy earth but was stopped by Gokus blast (meaning Goku can do it as well)
"Over 9000" Power level announced a little before the epic battle that gave Vegeta fans a boner, And Nappa scared to death. "WHAT 9000!?!?" So im guessing at the end of this battle, Goku probably reached 20,000 i guess. (i'm probably wrong)
The series progresses about 50 episodes later. the power level thing keeps getting brought over and over.
Eventually Frieza appears and turns in to his 2nd form out of 4 forms. This is where Frieza announces that his power level is over 1 Million.
So less then 1% of this guys powerlevel (<10,000) Is enough to destroy a freaking planet.
Mind you this is 2 out of 4 Forms of this androgynous xeno alien.
Now we are talking about his strongest form, the last one.
Later on in the series, some GUY easily slashes this Frieza dude in half. And apparently that "GUY" needs help with stronger enemys who are actually just FOOD for some OTHER Villain.
This is why I get really annoyed with this ugh-ugh series. Because of the power level thing! how does this work!
I get dizzy thinking about wtf can Goten do!
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Look.Freiza is more or less equal to a super sayian one.A super sayian 2 IMO is high herald.
Thanos eats high heralds for breakfast(I wouldn't doubt if he literally did that).See where i'm getting?
All of this is your opinion black bolt.
Frieza IMO is above high herald along with Thanos. I giving Frieza the nods over Thanos because he is everything Thanos is plus interest.
I agree, Thanos does eat high heralds for breakfast, he stomps them and I could see frieza doing the same thing. Thanos never, his entire career faced anyone like frieza. He faced people more powerful than frieza but he never faced anyone that fight or do the things that frieza do. Example: frieza fight CONTINUOUSLY at super speed mode and while doing this he carry nuclear blast in his finger tips. During these blitz he also mixing martial arts in his combos.
And again, Thanos is above high heralds but also again, the high heralds that Thanos fought does not doing ANYTHING comparable to what frieza does during combat. I could see Thanos getting overwhelmed.
Can you show me that cosmic awareness feat?
Originally posted by carver9
Why not when the blast alone decimated everything around it?
Being a huge explosion does not make something nuclear. What is destroyed doesn't matter. Nuclear energy is a product of the radiocative decay of an atom's nucleus. It releases radiation, and when used corrently can make a massive explosion.
Nappa's blast destroyed a city. This is true. However, a suitably large non-nuclear bomb could do the same. A nuclear weapon, on the other hand, releases tons of radiation and such into the area, known as fallout. Did Nappa's blast release any radiation? If so, was it Alpha or Beta particles or Gamma Rays? Was it a fission or fusion reaction? Could Nappa concievably kill someone via radiation poisoning? Did this blast have an Electromagnetic pulses, or EMPs, as part of it? Those can absolutely ruin any electronic devices, even hundreds of miles away from the blast itself, so you'd know if they were there.
If none of the above is apparent, Nappa's blast cannot be classified as nuclear. It's simply a giant city-wrecking blast.
EDIT: Frieza isn't nuclear either.
Originally posted by Etna
"Destroying the Planet" early in the series of DBZ. Where Nappa destroyed a planet, piccolo destroying a moon, and Vegata attempting to destroy earth but was stopped by Gokus blast (meaning Goku can do it as well)
"Over 9000" Power level announced a little before the epic battle that gave Vegeta fans a boner, And Nappa scared to death. "WHAT 9000!?!?" So im guessing at the end of this battle, Goku probably reached 20,000 i guess. (i'm probably wrong)The series progresses about 50 episodes later. the power level thing keeps getting brought over and over.
Eventually Frieza appears and turns in to his 2nd form out of 4 forms. This is where Frieza announces that his power level is over 1 Million.
So less then 1% of this guys powerlevel (<10,000) Is enough to destroy a freaking planet.
Mind you this is 2 out of 4 Forms of this androgynous xeno alien.
Now we are talking about his strongest form, the last one.Later on in the series, some GUY easily slashes this Frieza dude in half. And apparently that "GUY" needs help with stronger enemys who are actually just FOOD for some OTHER Villain.
This is why I get really annoyed with this ugh-ugh series. Because of the power level thing! how does this work!
I get dizzy thinking about wtf can Goten do!
LOL, I agree with all of this. It gets frustrating sometimes but it is easy to understand but people just do not want to put these characters at that level.
Jinzin and One Dumb explained it better than anyone.
Originally posted by Black bolt zi said their stamina isn't on par with Wolverine.
What are you talking about?They get hit through mountains and sometimes take planet busting attacks but their durability isn't about wolverine?
I said their durability is barely above peak human... that was an exaggeration. But seriously, their durability is shit compared to most bricks in Marvel and DC.
Originally posted by EtnaActually bulma was reading gokus power level and it broke at 21000.
"Destroying the Planet" early in the series of DBZ. Where Nappa destroyed a planet, piccolo destroying a moon, and Vegata attempting to destroy earth but was stopped by Gokus blast (meaning Goku can do it as well)
"Over 9000" Power level announced a little before the epic battle that gave Vegeta fans a boner, And Nappa scared to death. "WHAT 9000!?!?" So im guessing at the end of this battle, Goku probably reached 20,000 i guess. (i'm probably wrong)The series progresses about 50 episodes later. the power level thing keeps getting brought over and over.
Eventually Frieza appears and turns in to his 2nd form out of 4 forms. This is where Frieza announces that his power level is over 1 Million.
So less then 1% of this guys powerlevel (<10,000) Is enough to destroy a freaking planet.
Mind you this is 2 out of 4 Forms of this androgynous xeno alien.
Now we are talking about his strongest form, the last one.Later on in the series, some GUY easily slashes this Frieza dude in half. And apparently that "GUY" needs help with stronger enemys who are actually just FOOD for some OTHER Villain.
This is why I get really annoyed with this ugh-ugh series. Because of the power level thing! how does this work!
I get dizzy thinking about wtf can Goten do!
Originally posted by carver9Surfer has taken planet busting attacks.So freiza couldn't do that much to him.Thus thanos>Frieza.
All of this is your opinion black bolt.Frieza IMO is above high herald along with Thanos. I giving Frieza the nods over Thanos because he is everything Thanos is plus interest.
I agree, Thanos does eat high heralds for breakfast, he stomps them and I could see frieza doing the same thing. Thanos never, his entire career faced anyone like frieza. He faced people more powerful than frieza but he never faced anyone that fight or do the things that frieza do. Example: frieza fight CONTINUOUSLY at super speed mode and while doing this he carry nuclear blast in his finger tips. During these blitz he also mixing martial arts in his combos.
And again, Thanos is above high heralds but also again, the high heralds that Thanos fought does not doing ANYTHING comparable to what frieza does during combat. I could see Thanos getting overwhelmed.
Can you show me that cosmic awareness feat?
I know its in his powerset but IIRC I have never seen him actually use it.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
There are conventional high explosives that are more powerful than some genuine (if tiny) nuclear weapons.
Tiny nuclear blast?
She isnt tanking this. No one on that list is tanking this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeA0rawalYk
Prove it if they can and stop spitting out stuff.
Originally posted by marwash22
i said their stamina isn't on par with Wolverine.I said their durability is barely above peak human... that was an exaggeration. But seriously, their durability is shit compared to most bricks in Marvel and DC.
How is their stamina less than Wolverines when they take more of a beating than him and keep on pushing.
No one in Marvel or DC has taken anything CLOSE to what Goku has taken in a fight (referring to transtiers and below).