Yoda vs Anakin and Obi Wan vs Sidious

Started by Elok Quintly5 pages

I live in this mystical dream world in which Palpatine is the simultaneous leader of two galactic-class factions, micromanaging a war between those two factions, and arranging the seduction of Anakin Skywalker, eating up a substantial bulk of his time.

You forgot to mention he also has time for Sith rituals and going to the opera.

If I were to concede that Palpatine was truly decades out of practice by the time of ROTS, then by George; at the top of his game, that guy has to be the greatest swordsman of all time.

EQ
You forgot to mention he also has time for Sith rituals
Gideon
Sithisis takes place in a comic book in which the amount of time passed during said ritual is not revealed or hinted at; furthermore, we don't know how often he conducted those rituals;
EQ
and going to the opera.
Gideon
and arranging the seduction of Anakin Skywalker,

As you can see, I've accounted for everything. I'm good like that. 😄

EQ
If I were to concede that Palpatine was truly decades out of practice by the time of ROTS, then by George; at the top of his game, that guy has to be the greatest swordsman of all time.

^ Uh, no he doesn't. He just has to be an incredibly gifted one, which was never in question.

Originally posted by Gideon
That's probably a good idea, because anything else will just be me making fun of you incessantly, which in turn could affect our sex life.
And I REFUSE to let that happen. 😉

Yoda and Obi Wan should have faced Sidious together, then taken care of Anakin.

Originally posted by Gideon
As you can see, I've accounted for everything. I'm good like that. 😄

^ Uh, no he doesn't. He just has to be an incredibly gifted one, which was never in question.


If he can go toe-to-toe with Yoda and Mace after literal DECADES of being out of practice, then yeah... he'd knock them silly if he were at the top of his game. That would also make him the best swordsman of all time.

EQ
If he can go toe-to-toe with Yoda and Mace after literal DECADES of being out of practice, then yeah... he'd knock them silly if he were at the top of his game.

😐

First, what was asserted was a maximum of thirteen years. Since a decade has to be ten years, decades (plural) requires no less than twenty years.

Second, what's being asserted here is that Palpatine's technique is what has degraded, not his strength in the Force (thus his speed, agility, dexterity).

Third, there's no indication that it made that much of a difference, since Path of Destruction indicates that Force power is infinitely moar important than outright technique, hence why Bane was able to keep up with Kas'im.

EQ
That would also make him the best swordsman of all time.

I'm not saying he wouldn't have won against Yoda or Mace, but that doesn't make him the best swordsman of all time.

I'm not saying he wouldn't have won against Yoda or Mace, but that doesn't make him the best swordsman of all time.

Luke would be the only one in his way. And I'm being facetious, hence the egregious exaggeration.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yoda and Obi Wan should have faced Sidious together, then taken care of Anakin.
I doubt Obi-Wan would've made much of a difference against Palpatine.

and RJ rips off yet another Avvy.... is NOTHING sacred?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yoda and Obi Wan should have faced Sidious together, then taken care of Anakin.
Obi-Wan would've just been a liability, he'd get in Yoda's way. They should have gone after Vader together and then Sidious. Least that way they could have been sure to get one.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Obi-Wan would've just been a liability, he'd get in Yoda's way. They should have gone after Vader together and then Sidious. Least that way they could have been sure to get one.

By the time they defeated Vader Sidious may have been too well guarded.

Galan007
I doubt Obi-Wan would've made much of a difference against Palpatine.

Obi-Wan probably could have just solo'd Palpatine by making himself invisible, bypassing the security, and lopping the Emperor's head off.

Originally posted by Gideon
Obi-Wan probably could have just solo'd Palpatine by making himself invisible, bypassing the security, and lopping the Emperor's head off.
...While also repeating himself multiple times?

Seriously, did you notice how much he did that?

-"Let her go Anakin... Let her go."
-"Until now... Until now you have become the very thing you swore to destroy."
-"You were my brother Anakin.. My brother."
-"I have failed you Anakin, I have failed you."

Etc.

F*cker must have had some sort of underlying head injury. none

Originally posted by Galan007
...While also repeating himself multiple times?

Seriously, did you notice how much he did that?

-"Let her go Anakin... Let her go."
-"Until now... Until now you have become the very thing you swore to destroy."
-"You were my brother Anakin.. My brother."
-"I have failed you Anakin, I have failed you."

Etc.

F*cker must have had some sort of underlying head injury. none

It's a very well documented disease known as maleficus scribus.

Originally posted by truejedi
and RJ rips off yet another Avvy.... is NOTHING sacred?
Mhm, I totally knew you had it, had to have it for myself 🙄

Originally posted by Galan007
I doubt Obi-Wan would've made much of a difference against Palpatine.
Two Jedi attacking from different angles? If it were me, if I were Yoda, I would engage with my lightsaber and have Obi Wan attack from afar with force powers.

Guess it would have ruined the movie though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Two Jedi attacking from different angles? If it were me, if I were Yoda, I would engage with my lightsaber and have Obi Wan attack from afar with force powers.
Don't see it happening. Imo, Obi-Wan simply isn't powerful enough to make a difference.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Two Jedi attacking from different angles? If it were me, if I were Yoda, I would engage with my lightsaber and have Obi Wan attack from afar with force powers.

Guess it would have ruined the movie though.

Considering how the movie isn't a JRPG, yeah, it would have.