Originally posted by Prep-Man
So, this is true, godly Orion? He'd kick Surfer's ass.
Going by Simonsons run and Death of the New Gods, I'd say so. Even the infamous Action Comics where people like to show off Darkseid getting beat up by Superman also features Orion taking Superman out of the air with the barest of bursts of Astro Force, for fear of killing him...
Originally posted by King KandySilly statement since Surfer also pureposely wins some of the contest. So what's your point again? Oh, you don't have one.
You created this thread with the intention of Orion winning, and your goal was to get a response and try and beat down anyone who said Surfer would win. So this is a spite thread.
Agreed on the spite thread, I'm not much of a poster here but I do read this forum often. Seems to me "lighty" just wants to prove and shove his opinion down everyones throats in every thread. It's annoying to read to say the least. I agree on the fact surfer beats Orion, breaking down each individual scenario would be pointless and a waste of time I'm sorry to way. The fact is even if someone creates a logical feat backed argument to each and every scenario you will simply attack their opinion show no proof as to why it is false and say Orion wins. Life is to short my friend.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
you do realize that some of these showings Orion has greater feats. You actually think surfer van out blast the AF? Or beat Orion arm wrestling? A guy who is as strong as Superman.
sigh.yes i do think he has greater blast power. not strength tho, but i never claimed he was stronger. now if ur done baiting run along.
Originally posted by Naija boyI've never seen surfer hurt an abstract level being with his own power.nor have I seen him control universe destroying energies. No bait. I'm merely arguing the point surfer is not grater than orion. The evidence clearly shows that Orion is better than surfer in key areas and surfer is better than orion in key areas. They likely are equal. There is NOTHING the surfer can do that Orion can not. At least in terms of battle.
sigh.yes i do think he has greater blast power. not strength tho, but i never claimed he was stronger. now if ur done baiting run along.
Originally posted by mykkeThis is all alie. I post every time, proof and or cite feats to back my stance. Now I challenge you to show were I just said something stuoid like Orion is too mich for surfer or Orion is just more powerful those are the words of unworthy surfer heads. I always gice examples. It's the surfer heads who just assume surfer wins ever thing with thought and usually with very little knowledge of the other character if they aren't from marvel.
Agreed on the spite thread, I'm not much of a poster here but I do read this forum often. Seems to me "lighty" just wants to prove and shove his opinion down everyones throats in every thread. It's annoying to read to say the least. I agree on the fact surfer beats Orion, breaking down each individual scenario would be pointless and a waste of time I'm sorry to way. The fact is even if someone creates a logical feat backed argument to each and every scenario you will simply attack their opinion show no proof as to why it is false and say Orion wins. Life is to short my friend.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
I've never seen surfer hurt an abstract level being with his own power.nor have I seen him control universe destroying energies. No bait. I'm merely arguing the point surfer is not grater than orion. The evidence clearly shows that Orion is better than surfer in key areas and surfer is better than orion in key areas. They likely are equal. There is NOTHING the surfer can do that Orion can not. At least in terms of battle.
Scans of the incident of the abstract being orion hurt with his own power? Moreover surfer has actually broken through the Strangers forcefield and harmed him ( stranger actually verbalizes the pain he was caused). Then for that universal destroying energy thing, for orion it happened off panel and we never see what he actually does to the energy of the bomb or how he gets it to stop. The bomb was also not going to destroy the universe by means of sheer force but did so via tampering with the quantum structure of the universe which would then cause it to collapse in on itself.
Anyhow i did not say that Orion is not better than surfer in some areas, However, i maintain the stance that Surfer by virtue of his more creative and use of his powers in battle and his superiority in areas such as speed make him overall superior. Not by any considerable margin tho.