Kas'im vs Anakin and Windu

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Kas'im vs Anakin and Windu

Sabers only. This is ROTS Anakin. No shatterpoint.

Two on one I don't think anyone could hope to beat these two.

Team.

Yeah if it was either individual then Kas'im more likely, but not both.

But Kas'ims greatest feat may be that he was named the best duelist in the galaxy at the time he lived by Bane, but his second best: getting crushed by a temple while blocking an uber-wave

Kas'im stands no chance in hell.

Windu beat Sidious in sabers. Kas'sim wouldn't stand a chance.

I thought Vaapad and shatterpoint were excluded as the more incorporeal Force-fueled aspects of Mace's dueling skills?

OP says no shatterpoint. Doesn't say a word about Vapaad. Shatterpoint isn't why Mace beat Sidious.

Never said it was. But I always felt Vaapad to be part of Windu's Force arsenal. Not a saber style or a saber "skill" but a philosophy and frame of mind borne of the Force and used to enhance his abilities.

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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Never said it was. But I always felt Vaapad to be part of Windu's Force arsenal. Not a saber style or a saber "skill" but a philosophy and frame of mind borne of the Force and used to enhance his abilities.
While it's true that Vaapad is, in part, a state of mind (which is how the superconducting loop is able to work), Mace still referred to it as a variation of form VII/Juyo... So it is a fighting style as well.

Either could solo.

Spite

Originally posted by truejedi
OP ...Shatterpoint isn't why Mace beat Sidious.

Actually, in a way it was. Windu claimed that if Vaapad were his only gift, then the battle would go on forever... an endless stalemate. Shatterpoint was the straw the broke the camel's back.

no, it started to be, but he never found Sidious's shatterpoint. Look it up. I promise. He got sidetracked when he found Anakin standing in the doorway.

^ Anakin was Sidious's shatterpoint in that scene.

Originally posted by truejedi
no, it started to be, but he never found Sidious's shatterpoint. Look it up. I promise. He got sidetracked when he found Anakin standing in the doorway.
"In the Force, the shadow had become a pulsar of fear. Easily, almost effortlessly, [Mace] turned the shadow's fear into a weapon: he angled the battle to bring them both out onto the window ledge. Out in the wind. Out with the lightning. Out on a rain-slicked ledge above a half-kilometer drop. Out where the shadow's fear made it hesitate. Out where the shadow's fear turned some of its Force-powered speed into a Force-powered grip on the slippery permacrete. Out where Mace could flick his blade in one precise arc and slash the shadow's lightsaber in half."

That excerpt makes it difficult for me to discern whether or not Mace was using Vaapad or Shatterpoint (or a mixture of both) to down Palpatine in the final moments of their duel... Mace did "angle the battle" to exploit Palpatine's weaknesses -- and that seems indicative of Shatterpoint. However, the line: "Mace turned the shadow's fear into a weapon" sounds like Vaapad..? *scratches head*

I guess I can go out on a limb and say that Shatterpoint likely had something to do with it. The novelization made it pretty clear that Mace and Palpatine would have been locked in a perpetual stalemate, if Vaapad were Mace's only gift *enter Shatterpoint*.

Not sure, though.

Originally posted by truejedi
no, it started to be, but he never found Sidious's shatterpoint. Look it up. I promise. He got sidetracked when he found Anakin standing in the doorway.

Nah.

actually, yes. I appreciate your reams of evidence to the contrary, but you will have to do better.