political correctness

have we gotten out of hand with political correctness?

i have had some ppl in certain boards and forum get upset and threaten to report me b/c they dont agree with what i post. whether i post a story or a moment of my life or a particular view.

when did political correctness become censorship of facing issues that should be faced rather then pretend it didnt happen?

i had a mod get upset with me b/c i used the words fat and ugly while telling a story about a one night stand. she wasnt even part of my 2 way conversation.

another was talking about racism in a particular thread and explaining that ppl say things they dont mean in the heat of an emotional moment. i actually used a moment in my life where ppl around me were dying i censored the words used but did not take from the emotional turmoil i went through and named called the ones i held responsible for my friends deaths..

now i am not advocating racism but showing how one moment in a person's life does not define who he is for the rest of his life.. and again i am being reported b/c of something ppl would rather not face or acknowledge the sad part they want to censor my life experience and dont want anyone else to see it b/c it offends them morally or b/c of some warp view of political correctness.. life is not a pg13 movie things happen.

when does this political correctness get out of hand and when will it stop.. talking about it shouldnt be taboo or censored b/c of a few ppl feel uncomfortable

has there bn cases that you know of where political correctness is used as a censorship method?

nobody reported you in the Mel Gibson thread and it's best not to make entire threads that are a thinly veiled criticism of other discussions, still at the top of the thread list. you also could have pmed me if the Gibson thread wasn't a good enough place to have this discussion.

also, don't call out the mods. nobody pretends there is freedom of speech on the forums, so best not to get into a penis measuring contest so needlessly

here is how political correctness has effected national security...

YouTube video

I half agree with that comic.

But, a little webcomic making fun of it doesn't make their point invalid. Political Correctness is annoying.

edit- actually that comic sucks anyway. What that guy said in the first page isn't even potlitical correctness. The entire point of the term is a reference to terms that a politician wouldn't say because they're offensive buzz words, not just for a concept in general. Saying that homosexuals should have equal rights isn't being politically correct, scolding someone for saying "f*ggot" instead of "homosexual", is being politically correct. Calling someone an "african-american" instead of "negro/black guy" is being politically correct.

So, whoever wrote that comic used inaccurate extremes to make a point and they frankly don't know what the hell they're talking about anyway. Damn you King Kandy. Damn you.

edit- Blaxican is not responsible for any ironic situations in which it is actually he who has no idea what the hell he's talking about. Blame public schools.

It still has a point to make. Also, that comic is I think from 1994, so it may be reflecting uses more at the time.

i am offended by the blaxican avatar name handle its racist.. i like it changed to black and brown instead and not mention of race in anyway.. 😗

lol... I doubt most people even understand what most people they accuse of "political correctness" are actually trying to do and what their point is. Mocking PC, you only mock a strawman caricature as divorced from real attitudes as anything you could imagine.

also whats up with ppl being called racist or antisemitic when talking about middle east politics involving Israel?

Originally posted by King Kandy
It still has a point to make. Also, that comic is I think from 1994, so it may be reflecting uses more at the time.

What point is is trying to make though? That shoehorning a concept under a specific category doesn't invalidate it? I'd agree... but that's true for just about anything.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
What point is is trying to make though? That shoehorning a concept under a specific category doesn't invalidate it? I'd agree... but that's true for just about anything.

What do we consider "PC"?

Something like this except serious:

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i am offended by the blaxican avatar name handle its racist.. i like it changed to black and brown instead and not mention of race in anyway.. 😗

Originally posted by King Kandy
lol... I doubt most people even understand what most people they accuse of "political correctness" are actually trying to do and what their point is. Mocking PC, you only mock a strawman caricature as divorced from real attitudes as anything you could imagine.

I don't think that's quite true. At least in my experiences there are people that use the term correctly, i.e. when terminology is completely skewed in favour of not offending over accuracy. I also think that the opposite is true, that people with valid points are put into their place for not being "PC". PC does have a place so, imo, it definitely doesn't need to generally demonized. To be considerate and pleasant are good things, I think, they aren't an argument on the issue for either side though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think that's quite true. At least in my experiences there are people that use the term correctly, i.e. when terminology is completely skewed in favour of not offending over accuracy. I also think that the opposite is true, that people with valid points are put into their place for not being "PC". PC does have a place so, imo, it definitely doesn't need to generally demonized. To be considerate and pleasant are good things, I think, they aren't an argument on the issue for either side though.

I was corrected at work because I said "he might have to resign because he is gay) (that one senator/congressman that was caught doing the gay-bar thing and he was an anti-gay rights douche).

I was corrected, rather seriously, but a coworker. She took me aside and said, "You may want to watch what you say because you words could offend someone." I said, "I thought gay was the PC term?" She showed me where "homosexual" was the PC term, on the internetz (for government offices, at least..and the government usually sets the standards on what is acceptable when it comes to things like that in the work environment).

I could have sworn that "homosexual" was a pejorative, but now, and that gay was the "softer" version of it. But apparently not.

Political correctess is the freedom of speech´s worst enemy.

Alot of forums do that including one that I kicked off for not argeeing with them.People need to understand that all people think different and should have a choice to say what they want without people getting upset or banning you just because they don't argee with you.

Ugh, I hate people talking about the same things, making the same arguments because nothing ever gets done.

i think inimalist might have a problem with that quote and voice his opinion about you and your beliefs based on that quote which i find funny as all hell..

"i dont mind genocide so long as it is fast clean and justified." -- Wild Shadow

The forum is privately owned and run, so it's not a completely free venue for posters. Butthurt over being "censored" usually comes from people not understanding that.

That said, we do get reports from people who pretty clearly just disagree with someone, but there's no rule broken. Sometimes the line is blurred between the two and we have to make a judgment call. But we ignore the reports where someone is just in disagreement, regardless of the topic. Only when it devolves to trolling, spam, or insults do we intervene.

Btw, mods can and do get upset. We help run the forums, but also participate in them. Any issues with a mod should be handled via PM, and the rather blatent accusations in the OP, designed not to produce anything constructive but just to criticize and rally others against the mod, have me seriously considering closing this.