political correctness

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i think inimalist might have a problem with that quote and voice his opinion about you and your beliefs based on that quote which i find funny as all hell..

"i dont mind genocide so long as it is fast clean and justified." -- Wild Shadow

which quote?

your inflamatory point about genocide? sure, however, my view against that isn't PC. I could care less about social coheasion, in fact, i think interpersonal tension is a necessary part of a free society.

my view is that your position is evil and disturbing, not that you shouldn't be allowed to say it or that you should censor yourself. I'm making a moral argument that your position is wrong and bad, not that, for the sake of society, you have to keep quiet. in fact, i encourage you to speak your mind on these issues, as i find your position to be entirely self defeating.

and like i said, i don't report people. I think I did it once or twice because I got too heated in a debate (my appologies to QM, who i think i was debating with) or because I thought cobherst was the bot we found him out to be. not you. nobody is trying to censor you here. I am telling you some of your beliefs are disgusting.

Originally posted by Digi
Btw, mods can and do get upset. We help run the forums, but also participate in them. Any issues with a mod should be handled via PM, and the rather blatent accusations in the OP, designed not to produce anything constructive but just to criticize and rally others against the mod, have me seriously considering closing this.

its a response to me in the Mel Gibson thread, I don't think a real slight to the mods. Hes upset because I called his opinion, that some races should be steralized to promote population control, disgusting. He thinks im trying to be PC

this has grown from my initial example, it had less to do with mods and ppl and more on the focus of political correctness..

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but you aren't talking about political correctness

you are talking about wanting to be allowed to be racist without anyone calling you on it.

YOU are the one who wants PC, you want to be able to say what you want with no question, you want to be allowed to say gross nonsense and feel victimized when people call you on it.

i have no problem with ppl calling me racist.. i admitted that i am to an extend, my problem is that many ppl pretend they are not b/c they dont say things out loud. my examples were stereo type jokes which has no real meanness to it.. while others would rather cry and moan that they are offended vy it but then are the same ppl who cross the streets when they see a group of ppl who are different then them walking toward them. yet these same ppl would have you believe they are not the slight bit racist.. all i ask for is honesty with oneself.

now my sterilization comment which i thought was funny was about the planet population overall... it is such a problem that a particular group of ppl do practice certain lvl of population control now does that make me racist and disgusting evil bad.. no, all that it is, is matter of moral opinion and more then likely based on religion.

nobody is pretending at anything

im NOT racist in the way you are

and what way em i racist, i ask you?

i dont burn flags, i dont want to kill anyone.. i dont march and yell against a group of ppl.. i believe we are all equal regardless of race and deserve equality and fairness and right to live in our country of our choice if that country's laws allow it.

i am racist b/c i laugh at comedians and their racial stereo type joke?

or b/c i acknowledge a population problem.. i guess the Chinese must be racist against themselves since they practice population control and i make a light spirited comment?

acknowledging a problem and saying something needs to be done does not make me racist(at least not hitler lvl more like stand up comedian).. that's the problem with ppl they are so quick to point a finger and name call and label some one that they ignore the issue completely

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I would agree that soon world wide birthcontrol will become a neccessary evil, china is already doing it and for some reason in a lot of industrial countries the population is going down by itself, some people say it's because of wealth but the thing is the planet is just to small for that amount of people sooner or later the population has to be decreased, I would say it's better to do it like china instead of killing or sterilize the people. Another pretty ****ed up thing that decreases the population is that lot's of farmers are now growing bio fuel instead of food cause it brings more money and therefore a lot of people start starving in these countries. And if that trend goes on the problem could fix itself even if it's very cruel and sad.

actually, you are right, racist is the wrong word, I'm sorry.

its too late, i dont want your apology.. political correctness at its worse{hypocrisy}
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by the way i have no problem with racist ppl working alongside me so long as they allow me to work.. me being offended by what they do outside of work has no place nor gives me or anyone else the right to get them fired b/c i dont like their views whether blk, brw or white of something they said out of work and me knowing about it..

hell, i met and had to work with a lot of racist backwater @$$holes in the marines. my 1st gunny was outright ignorant racist.. did it bother me? yes. did i cry about it? no. i did my job and after work went home if they went to the bar and talked n$@$^ this and too many sp#%s in the marines that.. thats their problem.. they left me alone at work and respected my rank as i did theirs i just didnt hang out with them.. civility and fairness is all that is asked, which can be given even if racist.

now you have ppl being fired from places they bn working for yrs b/c someone found out he was a member of certain hate group even though they were polite every day at work..

me.. i'll fight for the right of the white guy who is burning a flag talking about n$^$# this sp#% that as well for the al sharpton @sshole who is all less sue them and make a race issue out of this etc etc,,, the hispanic who is all why em i being carded regularly i deserve to be in this country, dirty pig gringo.. mayade etc etc..

i'll fight for the annoying broad who is in the room.. *cough* hello woman in the room? you said guys and not ladies.. i''ll never date this race of men or men in general b/c i was raped or i know some one that was raped by one..

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People sometimes have to keep saying the same thing when debating because the person they are debating with keeps saying the same thing as well.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
and what way em i racist, i ask you?

Are you claiming you weren't being even a tiny bit racist when you said you wanted to exterminate all the sandniggers from Iraq to Palestine to Israel?

I keep hearing this little voice complaining about "two faced hypocrisy". Of course the louder voice is the one saying you're a sick **** and the racism pales in comparison.

edit: well lookit that, we can say sandniggers. weird

i admitted it.. i brought out my outburst i never denied it.. do i think that now? no.. was i angry at losing my friend was stationed overseas when i said that? yes.. i wanted everyone dead.. i aint denying anything which is why "i" brought it up.. i dont see how that helps your point in the least.

my quote:
i have no problem with ppl calling me racist.. i admitted that i am to an extend, my problem is that many ppl pretend they are not

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Are you claiming you weren't being even a tiny bit racist when you said you wanted to exterminate all the sandniggers from Iraq to Palestine to Israel?

I keep hearing this little voice complaining about "two faced hypocrisy". Of course the louder voice is the one saying you're a sick **** and the racism pales in comparison.

edit: well lookit that, we can say sandniggers. weird

Obviously. "Sand" negates all the badness in the world sandfaggot, sandbitch, sandmother****er...see?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
my quote:
i have no problem with ppl calling me racist.. i admitted that i am to an extend, my problem is that many ppl pretend they are not

How do you differentiate between people who aren't racist and people who just say they aren't racist? And if you just assume "everyone is racist" have you considered who insanely stupid and self righteous that sounds?

have you ever bn prejudice or judgmental about some one?

a small child isnt racist if she doesnt grasp the concept and meanness and is simply inquisitive..

the 2001 planet of the apes is racist and anti blk where is Al sharpton?

i wanna sue, i keep 40% while al keeps 60% and sticks me for the taxes on my share and his... or keeps it all himself since he paid for it all even though its my cause.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
here is how political correctness has effected national security...

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Originally posted by Parmaniac
I would agree that soon world wide birthcontrol will become a neccessary evil, china is already doing it and for some reason in a lot of industrial countries the population is going down by itself, some people say it's because of wealth but the thing is the planet is just to small for that amount of people sooner or later the population has to be decreased, I would say it's better to do it like china instead of killing or sterilize the people. Another pretty ****ed up thing that decreases the population is that lot's of farmers are now growing bio fuel instead of food cause it brings more money and therefore a lot of people start starving in these countries. And if that trend goes on the problem could fix itself even if it's very cruel and sad.

Over population is a real source of environmental degradation on a planetary scale but overconsumption even more so. That makes it even more relevant to lower the consumption and production rates of industrialized nations than to shrink the total poulation fo the planet - although that is also necessary. But because that means deliberate shrinking of the economy, nobody wants to consider that. Besides even thought the opulation in first world nations is stabilizing and even shrinking, their rates of consumptions and waste of resources and emission of pollution keep growing. Not to mention that there arent enough resources on the planet to spread the life standards, in terms of material consumption, of the first world to the entire human race. Material wealth and its consequent reduction in birth rates simply cant offer a way out of the ecological crisis.