Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah...the white paper was quite clear and used...get this...real world measures to gather their data (a.k.a science (empirical methods)). Argue with it until you're blue in the face: it will not change the fact that you're spewing ignorance all over this thread.> Thinks downplaying is listing max-strain feats on a Firetruck Tanker which is nothing to scoff at.
lol. Try harder.
"Argue with it until you're blue in the face: it will not change the fact that you're spewing ignorance all over this thread."
Just to make it more clear:
Edward's tree pushing feat >>>> Thing's Firetruck Tanker pulling feat in terms of force required to accomplish each task.
If you knew anything about physics, you could try to argue that the pavement and metal of the truck had a friction coefficient greater than 1. Obviously, I know differently, but if you made that argument, I would concede only on principal that someone tried to use more than bullshit to back their point up.
Says the guy throwing around nonsense and claiming "science".
No need to try harder, killed it already and continue to.
Just to be clear, you're still downplaying The Thing, since once again you ignore The Thing's greatest feats and and try to make pulling a fire truck as his best. It isn't. So LoL, again.
Still throwing around nonsense as a diversion. No one cares about the fire truck.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm not really sure that they do,
That level of surety is unnecesary.
Originally posted by -Pr-
...or at the very least, if they did, I don't see how that tree feat eclipses Thing's best feats in the movies.
I agree: I'd have to watch 2, again, to see how Thing messed around with the London Eye. I was basing my high-end feat off of Thing struggling to pull the Firetruck tanker.
Originally posted by jaden101
Wouldn't the thing's best feat be holding up the London eye?
I'm pretty sure Thing didn't hold that up by himself. He was assisted in no small amount by Sue and Reed. And they didn't support the ENTIRE weight of the thing, as it was only starting to lean over and not completely toppled over yet.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm pretty sure Thing didn't hold that up by himself. He was assisted in no small amount by Sue and Reed. And they didn't support the ENTIRE weight of the thing, as it was only starting to lean over and not completely toppled over yet.
Sue and Reed where keeping it from toppling forward and Ben(00:13-00:14) was pushing it up (supporting) from crashes into the floor.
The wheel had broken free and Ben was on the ground supporting its weight. Not sure how much of the 2100 tons the wheel portion is, but I suspect it's considerable.
edit: Seems the wheel and capsules is the 2100 tonnes of weight: http://www.londoneye.com/AboutUs/InterestingFacts/Default.aspx
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm pretty sure Thing didn't hold that up by himself. He was assisted in no small amount by Sue and Reed. And they didn't support the ENTIRE weight of the thing, as it was only starting to lean over and not completely toppled over yet.
I was wanting them to post up the video and admit to that. You ruined my fun. 🙁
Originally posted by Robtard
Sue and Reed where keeping it from toppling forward and Ben(00:13-00:14) was pushing it up (supporting) from crashes into the floor.The wheel had broken free and Ben was on the ground supporting its weight. Not sure how much of the 2100 tons the wheel portion is, but I suspect it's considerable.
edit: Seems the wheel and capsules is the 2100 tonnes of weight: http://www.londoneye.com/AboutUs/InterestingFacts/Default.aspx
Answer: Sue and/or Reed were the ones applying the most force, here. My bet would be on Reed. It would appear Reed's elastic "hold" is quite strong. He even put Ben in a full-nelson and it appear to hold him.
But, no, it was barely leaning so it is a small fraction of it's full mass. Add at that, Reed and Susan were also helping so that's about a 1/3 of that small fraction. That's being generous as I think Reed was the one supplying the most supportive force.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Answer: Sue and/or Reed were the ones applying the most force, here. My bet would be on Reed. It would appear Reed's elastic "hold" is quite strong. He even put Ben in a full-nelson and it appear to hold him.But, no, it was barely leaning so it is a small fraction of it's full mass. Add at that, Reed and Susan were also helping so that's about a 1/3 of that small fraction. That's being generous as I think Reed was the one supplying the most supportive force.
You're downplaying The Thing again. Sue and Reed where keeping it from tipping over. Ben was keeping it from crashing down into the ground, he was supporting are large portion of its weight. Watch the vid, we see him physically press it upward.
LoL. It had completely broken free from the pinion, look at the still I captured again, I circled the important bits in red, so all it's mass was on them.
Here, I did a rudimentary illustration for you:
My science > your science.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're downplaying The Thing again. Sue and Reed where keeping it from tipping over. Ben was keeping it from crashing down into the ground, he was supporting are large portion of its weight. Watch the vid, we see him physically press it upward.LoL. It had completely broken free from the pinion, look at the still I captured above again, I circled the important bits in red, so all it's mass was on them.
Here, I did a rudimentary illustration for you:
My science > your science.
Holy shit, you're reaching so much that you've reached into the realm of making shit up about that feat just to be right.
Get this: it wasn't the feat you thought it was. No amount of making shit up will make you right. You failed. You remembered wrong. Get over it. 🙂
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I don't get where you got "100 tons" from the tree pushing "feat". At most, I'd put that at 5, MAYBE 10 tons tops.
Correction:
350-450 tonne-force.
And it came from an actual scientific publication on vertical and horizontal uprooting of trees. Ignore science all you want: doesn't go away.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Correction:350-450 tonne-force.
And it came from an actual scientific publication on vertical and horizontal uprooting of trees. Ignore science all you want: doesn't go away.
Don't be so defensive. I was simply asking where your sources are and if it would be possible to link it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Holy shit, you're reaching so much that you've reached into the realm of making shit up about that feat just to be right.Get this: it wasn't the feat you thought it was. No amount of making shit up will make you right. You failed. You remembered wrong. Get over it. 🙂
Dodge.
LoL. Downplay.
Film proves you wrong:
YouTube video
Still capture proves you wrong:
Science proves you wrong:
