There was no Power Gem involved.
Originally posted by Warlord
you know Thanos would have ended that with a backhand (he has a reputation treating surfer like this...) 🙄
I'm personally having trouble of remembering any instance Thanos ends the Surfer with one back hand. Don't think that's ever happened. This Surfer would have been significantly amped, making me doubt such a thing was possible.
Back in by the way - rides running late.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
There was no Power Gem involved.I'm personally having trouble of remembering any instance Thanos ends the Surfer with one back hand. Don't think that's ever happened. This Surfer would have been significantly amped, making me doubt such a thing was possible.
Back in by the way - rides running late.
it happened in Surfer's series...I'll try find the issue no. if you want.
I don't get what u mean by Surfer being amped
I suppose I might be forgetting something. Are you referring to the issue he beats Surfer to the edge of death?
Like I said previously, Loki merged his powers with Norrin's. Norrin was amped when he took on Thor in the fight you referenced as evidence that Thor hasn't easily dealt with Norrin in all of their fights.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I suppose I might be forgetting something. Are you referring to the issue he beats Surfer to the edge of death?Like I said previously, Loki merged his powers with Norrin's. Norrin was amped when he took on Thor in the fight you referenced as evidence that Thor hasn't easily dealt with Norrin in all of their fights.
I believe it is issue 50. I will check again.
sorry I was confused. thought you were talking about surfer vs thanos.
yes i remember loki mentioning he has added his powers to that of the surfer. anyway let's not make it specific to those characters. Thanos in general tends to treat as minors people that give thor and the likes good fights.
I do agree that he is not 10 times stronger or such but he is clearly above elite heralds as you mentioned before by a considerable margin.
Originally posted by Warlord
I believe it is issue 50. I will check again.sorry I was confused. thought you were talking about surfer vs thanos.
yes i remember loki mentioning he has added his powers to that of the surfer. anyway let's not make it specific to those characters. Thanos in general tends to treat as minors people that give thor and the likes good fights.I do agree that he is not 10 times stronger or such but he is clearly above elite heralds as you mentioned before by a considerable margin.
He never took out Surfer with a back hand in that issue. I don't think he took him out at all actually. He attacked Surfer using a animated statue of himself -he had collected some of the Infinity Gems by that point IRCC- and beat on Surfer a few times, but Norrin wasn't down. He did probe Norirn's mind with the Mind Gem which had a negative effect on Norrin. I think Norrin even resisted a probe. A decent showing for Norrin I believe.
Any examples? I'm sorry, pimp slapping Professor Hulk and Drax -which did not damage to either of the two- doesn't prove anything. Knocking the heads of the Thing and the Professor together is more impressive, but only by so much. A high end or cutting loose Thor has shown to operate above his usual peers in the past.
He is not above Thor by any considerable amount. And I never said he was. I'll stick solely to Thor as I more knowledgeable when it comes to him than any other character.
My ride is here so I have to leave now.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He is not above Thor by any considerable amount. And I never said he was. I'll stick solely to Thor as I more knowledgeable when it comes to him than any other character.My ride is here so I have to leave now.
I may be wrong about the surfer issue...I'll check.
You said stronger...right...so you maintain an all out superman or thor can split 5/5 with Thanos?
Blood and Thunder Part 2; Silver Surfer 86; Page 28-29....
Thor takes Surfer out with a full strength hammer swing; Thor lands no blows prior to this attack as they fight 1 on 1...they fought briefly earlier in the comic, but there was considerable dialog between the earlier fighting and them going one on one... during which time Thor one shots (or rather one 'hits' him).
Surfer does not regain consciousness until after Warlock and Thor start fighting in Warlock and the Infinity Watch #23...
I wish I could post scans, but to my knowledge there is no scanner compatible with a ps3...
^ Significant dialogue? One-shot?
First off, Surfer and BRB managed to have a conversation after getting whooped on by Thor. Seems like you're suggesting that they spent half the comic conversing while Thor lay unconscious. Second, some of Surfer's 1v1 fight with Thor occurs off-panel. So calling it a one-shot is dubious at best.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Blood and Thunder Part 2; Silver Surfer 86; Page 28-29....Thor takes Surfer out with a full strength hammer swing; Thor lands no blows prior to this attack as they fight 1 on 1...they fought briefly earlier in the comic, but there was considerable dialog between the earlier fighting and them going one on one... during which time Thor one shots (or rather one 'hits' him).
Surfer does not regain consciousness until after Warlock and Thor start fighting in Warlock and the Infinity Watch #23...
I wish I could post scans, but to my knowledge there is no scanner compatible with a ps3...
did you mean this?
surfing on your ps3? slim or fat? mines a 40gig fat one which i use sparingly as its fan always goes on high after just a few minutes of play.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Significant dialogue? One-shot?First off, Surfer and BRB managed to have a conversation after getting whooped on by Thor. Seems like you're suggesting that they spent half the comic conversing while Thor lay unconscious. Second, some of Surfer's 1v1 fight with Thor occurs off-panel. So calling it a one-shot is dubious at best.
Well...thats not exactly how it went:
Thor started beating on Surfer, then Bill got back up (as he was KO'ed by Thor in part 1) and fought Thor one on one and beats him down (although technically it was 2 on 1 for a brief period there)...
Thor goes into his delusions while Bill and Surfer talk...
Thor gets up and blasts Bill rendering him unconscious...
Surfer and Thor fight, and while its true that some of fighting occurred off panel, the fact remains that we dont see Surfer take any punishment from Thor until Thor KO's him with that big hammer swing on pages 28-29...
So while you could make an argument that Thor got in some licks off panel, its just pure speculation as you have no proof of it...
So yeah...Thor one shots him.
^ I nominate this for stupidest post of the day.
How you call it a one-shot when Thor was bashing Surfer not a minute prior is surprising. How you call it pure speculation that Thor didn't bash Surfer some more -- when at one point in the fight, they're standing off and after the action cuts away and back, Thor's now on top of Surfer -- is surprisingly stupid.
I guess BRB was one-shotted by Thor also with that blast since Bill had that minute conversation to regather himself, amirite?
They appeared to be grappling with one another...and Surfer was losing...again you could argue that Thor got some licks in with the hammer to get him into that position, but you are speculating; from my point of view they simply appeared to be wrestling...and Surfer was losing.
But anyway, we are off topic...do you have any feats to present that show Thanos matching or exceeding Thors best strength and/or energy projection feat?
And even if "one shot" is inaccurate, he still beat Surfer down decisively...
So those saying "well Thanos is far above Thor because he beat Surfer down" has no weight as Thor has done the exact same thing to him; then Thor proceeds to give Warlock AND Surfer a beating in Infinity Watch #23...so again, Thanos giving Surfer a beating is nothing that Thor cant do either.
I guess I will have to deal with this tool myself.
Listen you twit... Bad Guys don't have LIFTING feats. Is this a tough concept for you to understand being as slow as you are or what is the issue? Name me all the lifting feats Darkseid, Despero or Thanos has? You won't find many if at all will you? Know why... cause they don't need to save earth or the universe and thus have to lift this or turn this wheel to do so. So now that we've established with 100% certainly that bad guys don't and cannot be compared to heroes who will have lifting feats.
However, what we can do is logical assumption based on narration and on panel evidence. We know Hulk is strong... we know very strong when angry. We know The Thing is strong and has impressive lifting feats... Yet the writer made things crystal clear for us... Thanos grabbed both of them and as they were resisting being smashed together says "you call yourselves strong.. I am strength personified" What is the writer making clear... Thanos is in another league than these two strong guys combined. Is that a tough logical conclusion for you to make? It certainly isn't for intelligent people. When we see Thanos backhand people with ease and slap them away like ants... What does that tell us... He treats them like children and he's the parent. He does this all the time and laughs at the heroes for even trying to attempt to step to him. Pak... a avid hulk lover and writer.. said in an interview when asked who is stronger Hulk or Thanos... Thanos is in another league. Hmmmmm this is a hulk wankfest writer telling us how Thanos is viewed at Marvel.
MORE proof... we have NEVER seen Thanos overpowered via strength and treated like a child by ANY herald INCLUDING Thor. NOT ONCE. He treats them like children then NEVER treat him like one. Hmmmmmmm why is that... Um because it is clear to marvel or anybody with half a brain that THanos is just plain stronger than any herald. Period. An amped Thor was dealt with by Thanos who was getting the better of the fight. The PG mad Thor even stronger and yet he couldn't do a damn thing to Thanos. He didn't overpower him in any way shape or form. Yet you think regular thor can... You are borderline retarded for that line of thinking.
Now onto blast power... First the debate has already been won becaues you're using isolated select rarely used blasts from Thor... and compare them to average blasts by Thanos. That is a horrible way to debate. Not only does Thor have to chant to do said Godblast which means Thanos fighting to the best of his ability won't even be there to take it.. Thus how does it even matter. You dont' just take high end feats for one and average for another. That has already lost you the debate. Lets look at average showings...
The one clear cut example that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt who has stronger blast is when Quasar had THOR, hulk, drax, Thanos and other heroes trapped in his shield construct. Thor and all the people except Thanos was trying to break it. Thor threw his hammer they were punching it etc etc.... Thanos in ONE shot destroyed the construct. Game over right there.
Lets go further.... Thanos matched an abstract blast power to free him from captivity. The abstract I'm referring to is the In-betweener. This wasn't claimed to be a crazy all powerful blast from Thanos... this was just described as a normal blast. Thanos matching the output of an abstract WTF PWNS Thor using his Godblast on anybody. The only one that kinda compares is the exitar showing.. however that doesn't compare because of what it took Thor to accomplish it which was the belt fo strength reinforcement. Not applicable here.
Lets take a look at more... Galactus when thor blasted him was WEAK and wasn't portrayed as strong as he would later be viewed. This is agreed upon with even Rage. So you have Thor blasting a WEAK Galacus and just having him turn and run. You have Thanos blasting a WELL FED Galactus... and Galactus goes flying through his ship and for miles bouncing off the moon. Hmmmm seems very clear which blast was more powerful to me.
I could go on and on but that is enough toolage for now.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderActing like Surfer got one-shotted is what I have a problem with. And I've pointed out two reasons for why that's probably the last way you could characterize that fight.
And even if "one shot" is inaccurate, he still beat Surfer down decisively...So those saying "well Thanos is far above Thor because he beat Surfer down" has no weight as Thor has done the exact same thing to him; then Thor proceeds to give Warlock AND Surfer a beating in Infinity Watch #23...so again, Thanos giving Surfer a beating is nothing that Thor cant do either.
I don't care how you compare Thanos and Thor.
