Originally posted by dadudemonWhat are you on about? Now, it's obvious that you're just ignorantly twi-hating. You could at least try to make it less obvious.
The Empire Strikes Back....You think that in 124 minutes the battle of Hoth took place, Luke found Yoda, Leia and Han went to Cloud city, were captured, Luke went to Cloud city, faced Vader, got pwned, got rescued, and got an artificial hand?
Originally posted by dadudemonDude. Stop.And I have shown but you and everyone ignored how a force user is useless against a vamp. Placidity further showed why all of you have fanboy blinders on. None of you can stand the fact that some 13-year-old girls fantasy characters could beat your 13-year-old boy fantasy characters. It's like, detrimental to your ego.
And, I will not respond to the Jedi Order bla bla. It's already been destroyed, thoroughly. I am not going to rehash lame arguments that are done.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The Empire Strikes Back....You think that in 124 minutes the battle of Hoth took place, Luke found Yoda, Leia and Han went to Cloud city, were captured, Luke went to Cloud city, faced Vader, got pwned, got rescued, and got an artificial hand?
Fail. The time events were very linear after the plane trip. Bella ran to her dance studio, because she was already NEAR her home. She spoke to Edward, ran, got pwned. Very linear.
Also, that doesn't change anything about James beating Bella's plane. 😐 😐 😐
Since Edward IS faster, that only makes things worse.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude. Stop.
No, you.
Watch some of the game footage, Rayne is friggin uber.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I generally try and be nice to people when the other person is nice to me, but this is ridiculous. Are you joking or do you actually think that a bunch of Twilight vampires can take down a star destroyer? Or the entire Jedi Order?
A small group of Jedi are facing twivamps. Precog enables the Jedi to, at the very least, pinpoint the general area the twivamps are in. Jedi force pushes in that direction. Fast ass twivamp is hurled backwards. Twivamp falls to the ground. Jedi force grabs twivamp before twivamp hgets to his/her feet. Jedi lifts twivamp off the ground. Jedi force pulls twivamp onto their lightsaber blade.
Just saying.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
A small group of Jedi are facing twivamps. Precog enables the Jedi to, at the very least, pinpoint the general area the twivamps are in. Jedi force pushes in that direction. Fast ass twivamp is hurled backwards. Twivamp falls to the ground. Jedi force grabs twivamp before twivamp hgets to his/her feet. Jedi lifts twivamp off the ground. Jedi force pulls twivamp onto their lightsaber blade.Just saying.
Here's a more correct scenario.
Alice sees all of the Jedi coming as soon as someone decides that they will attack. (this could be weeks to months in advance.)
She sees the entire fight, unfold. Edward can see the vision, as well, because of his ability.
They both explain, in detail, to every vampire, what is going to happen, including the Jedi's abilities.
The Jedi get very cloudy bits and pieces of precognition, seeing little of anything with some of it being wrong. However, it does give them an idea that they are facing powerful foes.
The vampires setup a trap at the exact location/s that all of the force users will land or attack. Only a few of them see it in time before dying (cause that's how it works, on screen. 🙂 )
The rest are torn to shreads in less than a second.
The vampires have a massive feast, that night, on all the dead Jedi.
The end.
Originally posted by dadudemonNot if Palpatine is with them 😉 His foresight is at least as good as Alices.
Here's a more correct scenario.Alice sees all of the Jedi coming as soon as someone decides that they will attack. (this could be weeks to months in advance.)
She sees the entire fight, unfold. Edward can see the vision, as well, because of his ability.
They both explain, in detail, to every vampire, what is going to happen, including the Jedi's abilities.
The Jedi get very cloudy bits and pieces of precognition, seeing little of anything with some of it being wrong. However, it does give them an idea that they are facing powerful foes.
The vampires setup a trap at the exact location/s that all of the force users will land or attack. Only a few of them see it in time before dying (cause that's how it works, on screen. 🙂 )
The rest are torn to shreads in less than a second.
The vampires have a massive feast, that night, on all the dead Jedi.
The end.
Vader "He will come to me?"
Palpy "Yes, I have foreseen it."
High end feats, brutha.
So, this stands:
A small group of Jedi are facing twivamps. Precog enables the Jedi to, at the very least, pinpoint the general area the twivamps are in. Jedi force pushes in that direction. Fast ass twivamp is hurled backwards. Twivamp falls to the ground. Jedi force grabs twivamp before twivamp hgets to his/her feet. Jedi lifts twivamp off the ground. Jedi force pulls twivamp onto their lightsaber blade.
No way around it, Twiboy 😄
Besides, Palpy/Sidious used the dark side to cloud the foresight of the entire Jedi order, you think one Twitwink won't fall victim to his methods too? If Alice can't see shit, she can't predict shit.
At that point, Jedi battle precog takes over and....well.....
A small group of Jedi are facing twivamps. Precog enables the Jedi to, at the very least, pinpoint the general area the twivamps are in. Jedi force pushes in that direction. Fast ass twivamp is hurled backwards. Twivamp falls to the ground. Jedi force grabs twivamp before twivamp hgets to his/her feet. Jedi lifts twivamp off the ground. Jedi force pulls twivamp onto their lightsaber blade.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ray shields are not inside the Star Drestroyer, in the movies. They guarded the vent. 😐
In ROTS.
You don't understand that a Vampire doesn't have to damage the ATAT at all.
Explain please.
And I have shown but you and everyone ignored how a force user is useless against a vamp. Placidity further showed why all of you have fanboy blinders on. None of you can stand the fact that some 13-year-old girls fantasy characters could beat your 13-year-old boy fantasy characters. It's like, detrimental to your ego.
The problem is that you don't understand how powerful the Jedi really are. You also don't understand how the Force works. It isn't some sort of wind that blows at you that you can counteract by running fast. The Jedi looks at the vampire, the vampire rises in the air. The vampire CAN'T STOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your claims of them moving too fast for the Jedi to react is absurd because the Jedi can see things BEFORE they happen.
Jedi anticipates that vampire will charge.
Vampire prepares to charge.
Jedi looks at the vampire and the vampires is grasped by the Force.
get it?
And, I will not respond to the Jedi Order bla bla. It's already been destroyed, thoroughly. I am not going to rehash lame arguments that are done.
No you haven't. You have not provided one shred of proof showing that the vampires can do jack against a Force attack.
Edward ran from Forks to Phoenix in about 10 minutes.
So? You still don't understand how the Force works. Before Edward starts running, Yoda looks at Edward and Edward is held up or goes flying in any direction Yoda wishes him to go. NO amount of strength or speed will counteract it.
James had a similar feat because he retraced his steps, after being lured by Rosalie and co, back to Forks, and then to Phoenix, so quickly, that he beat the jet Bella was on.
See above.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
In ROTS.Explain please.
The problem is that you don't understand how powerful the Jedi really are. You also don't understand how the Force works. It isn't some sort of wind that blows at you that you can counteract by running fast. The Jedi looks at the vampire, the vampire rises in the air. The vampire CAN'T STOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your claims of them moving too fast for the Jedi to react is absurd because the Jedi can see things BEFORE they happen.
Jedi anticipates that vampire will charge.
Vampire prepares to charge.
Jedi looks at the vampire and the vampires is grasped by the Force.get it?
No you haven't. You have not provided one shred of proof showing that the vampires can do jack against a Force attack.
So? You still don't understand how the Force works. Before Edward starts running, Yoda looks at Edward and Edward is held up or goes flying in any direction Yoda wishes him to go. NO amount of strength or speed will counteract it.
See above.
Not to mention this:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not if Palpatine is with them 😉 His foresight is at least as good as Alices.Vader "He will come to me?"
Palpy "Yes, I have foreseen it."
High end feats, brutha.
Besides, Palpy/Sidious used the dark side to cloud the foresight of the entire Jedi order, you think one Twitwink won't fall victim to his methods too? If Alice can't see shit, she can't predict shit.
At that point, Jedi battle precog takes over and....well.....
And this:
Originally posted by Rogue JediA small group of Jedi are facing twivamps. Precog enables the Jedi to, at the very least, pinpoint the general area the twivamps are in. Jedi force pushes in that direction. Fast ass twivamp is hurled backwards. Twivamp falls to the ground. Jedi force grabs twivamp before twivamp hgets to his/her feet. Jedi lifts twivamp off the ground. Jedi force pulls twivamp onto their lightsaber blade.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not if Palpatine is with them 😉 His foresight is at least as good as Alices.
😆 😆 😆 😆
Not even close.
*reads your post again*
😆 😆
Do you really believe the sh*t you post?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So, this stands:A small group of Jedi are facing twivamps. Precog enables the Jedi to, at the very least, pinpoint the general area the twivamps are in. Jedi force pushes in that direction. Fast ass twivamp is hurled backwards. Twivamp falls to the ground. Jedi force grabs twivamp before twivamp hgets to his/her feet. Jedi lifts twivamp off the ground. Jedi force pulls twivamp onto their lightsaber blade.
No way around it, Twiboy 😄
Besides, Palpy/Sidious used the dark side to cloud the foresight of the entire Jedi order, you think one Twitwink won't fall victim to his methods too? If Alice can't see shit, she can't predict shit.
At that point, Jedi battle precog takes over and....well.....
A small group of Jedi are facing twivamps. Precog enables the Jedi to, at the very least, pinpoint the general area the twivamps are in. Jedi force pushes in that direction. Fast ass twivamp is hurled backwards. Twivamp falls to the ground. Jedi force grabs twivamp before twivamp hgets to his/her feet. Jedi lifts twivamp off the ground. Jedi force pulls twivamp onto their lightsaber blade.
It doesn't stand. It fails, because of what I said.
I think you're just joking, now, as there's no way you could be serious.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
In ROTS.
I said: "Ray shields are not inside the Star Drestroyer, in the movies. They guarded the vent."
That's a comprehension failure on your part.
By inside, I meant the "bio" area as that's where, get this, the people are. 😐
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Explain please.
No. It's absurd that you would even ask. 😐
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
The problem is that you don't understand how powerful the Jedi really are.
No, I do. That's YOUR problem. You over-estimate their powers and don't know anything about the vamps.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
You also don't understand how the Force works.
I do.
You over-estimate their powers and don't know anything about the vamps.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
It isn't some sort of wind that blows at you that you can counteract by running fast.
In fact, you can overcome it by running fast.
It's just that:
You over-estimate their powers and don't know anything about the vamps.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
The Jedi looks at the vampire, the vampire rises in the air.
This is where you fail.
The only time a Jedi would see a vampire is right before his or her death.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
The vampire CAN'T STOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SURE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Even standing still, they only have to grab onto something that weighs a ton or two. And if it's Yoda or Palps, grab onto something that weighs 10 tons.
This is IF they are standing still, which they won't be.
Fail.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Your claims of them moving too fast for the Jedi to react is absurd because the Jedi can see things BEFORE they happen.
Right, and this somehow counters EVERYTHING that Placidity laid out for you newbs in the other thread that RJ had closed?
No, it doesn't at all.
All of the arguments were pwned, thoroughly, and only your annoying fanboyism continues the discussion.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Jedi anticipates that vampire will charge.
Vampire prepares to charge.
And this is a fail argument because Jasper taught the vampires not to attack head on.
Good job at proving my point that you don't know anything.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Jedi looks at the vampire and the vampires is grasped by the Force.get it?
Yeah, I get it.
Somehow, the Jedi is going to react to an opponent that makes Palpatine look very slow...the same Sith Lord that slew several highly skilled Jedi in mere seconds. Right. 😬
Not only will they not be able to get a lock on the Vamps when they virtually disappear, even if they could, they'd kill themselves even attempting to attack a Vampire.
Unless they use light sabers that are 5 feet long. ;|
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
No you haven't. You have not provided one shred of proof showing that the vampires can do jack against a Force attack.
Yes I have. Just because you are clueless and blinded by fanboyism, doesn't mean I haven't.
I just destroyed it again.
And, the proof has been supplied in spades. It is your unwillingness to admit that vampires from a teenage-girls fantasy would beat your fanboyish obession.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
So? You still don't understand how the Force works. Before Edward starts running, Yoda looks at Edward and Edward is held up or goes flying in any direction Yoda wishes him to go. NO amount of strength or speed will counteract it.
No, you don't understand how the force works.
If the force worked the way you said it does, then we no Jedi's would have died under order 66, all of the Jedi that came to arrest Palpy would have lived, and the Jedi would rule supreme over the galaxy.
It's soooo funny cause you said, "no amount of strength or speed will counter-act that."
hahahahaha
Cause like, that's EXACTLY what would be needed to counteract that.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
See above.
See above.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Good job!The Twilight Vampires stand no chance against the Jedi Order. Although I respect their opinion, anybody that argues for Twilight in this scenario generally do so because of ignorance of the capabilities of the Jedi.
The only force ignorance I've seen in this thread was only from you and RJ. Seriously.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I said: "Ray shields are not inside the Star Drestroyer, in the movies. They guarded the vent."That's a comprehension failure on your part.
By inside, I meant the "bio" area as that's where, get this, the people are. 😐
General Grevious said "activate ray shields" and Obi Wan, Anakin and Palpatine were trapped by ray shields. The fact that Obi Wan and Anakin didn't attempt to cut through it implies that the ray shields can resist even lightsaber strikes.
No. It's absurd that you would even ask. 😐
Please explain.
No, I do. That's YOUR problem. You over-estimate their powers and don't know anything about the vamps.
Untrue, as I will prove.
I do.
You over-estimate their powers and don't know anything about the vamps.
Again, untrue, as I will prove.
In fact, you can overcome it by running fast.
It's just that:
You over-estimate their powers and don't know anything about the vamps.
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Oh my god. THAT ISN'T TRUE!
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This is where you fail.
The only time a Jedi would see a vampire is right before his or her death.
They'll sense it BEFORE the vampires move.
SURE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Even standing still, they only have to grab onto something that weighs a ton or two. And if it's Yoda or Palps, grab onto something that weighs 10 tons.
That takes time, and if they grab onto something then they won't be able to move if they want to avoid getting Force TK'd, which opens up room for them to get cut down by Jedi with lightsabers.
This is IF they are standing still, which they won't be.
Fail.
The Jedi Force attack them BEFORE they move, because they sense the vampire moving BEFORE they move!!!
Right, and this somehow counters EVERYTHING that Placidity laid out for you newbs in the other thread that RJ had closed?
No, it doesn't at all.
All of the arguments were pwned, thoroughly, and only your annoying fanboyism continues the discussion.
Notice that I'm among the only ones that isn't constantly insulting you, and then you burn one of your only bridges in this argument.
And this is a fail argument because Jasper taught the vampires not to attack head on.
Good job at proving my point that you don't know anything.
So the vampires are going to go AROUND the Jedi and kill 10,000 Jedi before any of them can react?
BS.
Yeah, I get it.
Somehow, the Jedi is going to react to an opponent that makes Palpatine look very slow...the same Sith Lord that slew several highly skilled Jedi in mere seconds. Right. 😬
They just need to Force TK the vampires, which requires an exertion through the Force. The vampires will have to dash a distance that varies depending on the distance, but given that the Jedi Temple is VERY large it would be a large amount of meters, and then go AROUND the Jedi like you claim before the Jedi simply perform an exertion in the Force, which takes a very small fraction of a second. It's like a guy trying to run 100 meters before this other guy claps his hands.
Even if the vampires can move faster than a commercial airliner like you claim (despite having no proof that they don't need to, say, accelerate), they can't do that to 10,000 Jedi before the Jedi do something that is as simple to them as clapping their hands.
Not only will they not be able to get a lock on the Vamps when they virtually disappear, even if they could, they'd kill themselves even attempting to attack a Vampire.
Unless they use light sabers that are 5 feet long. ;|
"get a lock"? Lol what? The Jedi Force attack the vampires BEFORE the vampires move.
Yes I have. Just because you are clueless and blinded by fanboyism, doesn't mean I haven't.
I just destroyed it again.
And, the proof has been supplied in spades. It is your unwillingness to admit that vampires from a teenage-girls fantasy would beat your fanboyish obession.
Nah, you're the one claiming that a bunch of vampires can take down an Order that consistently fights and defeats multiple spage age opponents using plasma weapons capable of generating energy in the gigawatts from multiple directions at once.
No, you don't understand how the force works.
If the force worked the way you said it does, then we no Jedi's would have died under order 66, all of the Jedi that came to arrest Palpy would have lived, and the Jedi would rule supreme over the galaxy.
Strawman.
It's soooo funny cause you said, "no amount of strength or speed will counter-act that."
hahahahaha
Cause like, that's EXACTLY what would be needed to counteract that.
See above.
The only force ignorance I've seen in this thread was only from you and RJ. Seriously.
You don't get it. If the Jedi get a Force grip on the Vampires (which they can; their reaction time is fast enough to block blaster bolts when combined with pre cog) then the Vampires can't escape it unless if the Jedi let go, regardless of how physically strong they are.
Oh, and did I mention that the Jedi Temple was a lightside Force nexus?
Also, there's a possibility that the Jedi might even be able to withstand a vampire's attack. Anakin fell hundreds, maybe even thousands of feat and landed without any injuries. Vader absorbed blaster bolts with his hands. Many Jedi withstood Force lightning.
Also, a lot of you Twilight supporters are DENYING the Jedi side evidence (the EU), despite it being CANON. This is clearly unfair, although for some reason it is part of the rules (apparently), so maybe it isn't your fault. However, if we were allowed to use evidence that is CANON according to George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars, then it would be even more obvious that the Jedi Order would pwn the vampires. Mace Windu and Sidious were moving faster than the eye could see in the ROTS novel.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
General Grevious said "activate ray shields" and Obi Wan, Anakin and Palpatine were trapped by ray shields. The fact that Obi Wan and Anakin didn't attempt to cut through it implies that the ray shields can resist even lightsaber strikes.
ZOMG!?!?!?! They were on the Death Star? dur
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Please explain.
No. You should do some research.
You can't walk into a thread, not know anything about the other vamps, and then want me to explain things that are obvious.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Untrue, as I will proveAgain, untrue, as I will prove..
You didn't prove anything except that you can type.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
They'll sense it BEFORE the vampires move.
This horrible "point" has been pwned by Placidity already.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
That takes time, and if they grab onto something then they won't be able to move if they want to avoid getting Force TK'd, which opens up room for them to get cut down by Jedi with lightsabers.
Right, and moving out the arm, concentrating, and using the force takes time as well...far long than it does for a twivamp to just run, I dunno, 100 yards in far less than a second? dur
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
The Jedi Force attack them BEFORE they move, because they sense the vampire moving BEFORE they move!!!
The vampire moves out of the way of their force projection BEFORE they can use the power becaue the vampire's perceiption of time is far superior to that of a Force user!!!!
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Notice that I'm among the only ones that isn't constantly insulting you, and then you burn one of your only bridges in this argument.
😆
Hardly anyone is insutling me except for you.
FAIL!
And me being annoyed by your fanboyism is an insult?
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
So the vampires are going to go AROUND the Jedi and kill 10,000 Jedi before any of them can react?BS.
Yup. Pretty much.
😐
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
They just need to Force TK the vampires, which requires an exertion through the Force. The vampires will have to dash a distance that varies depending on the distance, but given that the Jedi Temple is VERY large it would be several meters, and then go AROUND the Jedi like you claim before the Jedi simply perform an exertion in the Force, which takes a very small fraction of a second. It's like a guy trying to run 100 meters before this other guy claps his hands.Even if the vampires can move faster than a commercial airliner like you claim (despite having no proof that they don't need to, say, accelerate), they can't do that to 10,000 Jedi before the Jedi do something that is as simple to them as clapping their hands.
You didn't even address my point.
You just ignored it, just like RJ does, and responded with the same BS.
"Yeah, I get it.
Somehow, the Jedi is going to react to an opponent that makes Palpatine look very slow...the same Sith Lord that slew several highly skilled Jedi in mere seconds. Right"
And a vid was alredy posted showing instant acceleration.
PWNED!
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
"get a lock"? Lol what? The Jedi Force attack the vampires BEFORE the vampires move.
This horrible "point" has been pwned by Placidity already.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Nah, you're the one claiming that a bunch of vampires can take down an Order that consistently fights and defeats multiple spage age opponents using plasma weapons capable of generating energy in the gigawatts from multiple directions at once.
Nah, you'e the one claiming that a bunch of meatbags would stand up to a bunch of creatures that make Palpatine look like he's standing stiill.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Strawman.
You said I didn't provide proof when the proof was already provided.
I then called you "NO PROOF! NARF!" comment for what it was, and now it's a strawman because I refuse to argue in an idiot circle?
And it wouldn't even be strawman, it's ad hominem.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
You don't get it. If the Jedi get a Force grip on the Vampires (which they can; their reaction time is fast enough to block blaster bolts when combined with pre cog) then the Vampires can't escape it unless if the Jedi let go, regardless of how physically strong they are.
Right, so how is a Jedi going to kill a creature that cannot be choked out or hit with a saber because it's too fast?
Again, how can a person TRY to kill a vampire with a saber when it isn't long enough to get anywhere near the vampire?
This, of course, lamely assumes that a vampire could even be caught in a force hold, to begin with?
Why am I even entertaining fail ideas?