Hulk could lift 500 tons in his sleep.
The 100 tons thing is a complete fail misnomer by Marvel.
In fact, Spidey can lift 100 tons with some strain. By the definition of the qualifications necessary to be in 100 tons class, Spidey would technically qualify. 😂
That's why I prefer DC's more straightforward classifcation method: hey, how do you fare against Supes?
Originally posted by CosmicCometDo you read comics?
Hulk could lift 500 tons in his sleep.The 100 tons thing is a complete fail misnomer by Marvel.
In fact, Spidey can lift 100 tons with some strain. By the definition of the qualifications necessary to be in 100 tons class, Spidey would technically qualify. 😂
That's why I prefer DC's more straightforward classifcation method: hey, how do you fare against Supes?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you read comics?
Did you understand a single bit of what I posted?
'100 tonners' aren't actually 100 tonners. They are more like 100,000 tonners. At least.
Spiderman has lifted things whose actual weight would be around 100 tons. Obviously he's not a class 100 guy, although by the simple description of the 100 ton class, he would technically qualify.
Thus, Marvel's strength classification is a complete failure in living up to its basic description.
Originally posted by CosmicCometThe handbooks are jokes anyways and Spiderman isn't portrayed as lifting 100 tons it's a few feats artists threw up with nerds applying weight to with their calculators like I have seen numerous zelda fans do with zelda games.
Did you understand a single bit of what I posted?'100 tonners' aren't actually 100 tonners. They are more like 100,000 tonners. At least.
Spiderman has lifted things whose actual weight would be around 100 tons. Obviously he's not a class 100 guy, although by the simple description of the 100 ton class, he would technically qualify.
Thus, Marvel's strength classification is a complete failure in living up to its basic description.
haha
but he's right about the strength thing, 100 tons is routine lifting not one time with all your might as spidey may have done when lifting this huge metal scaffolding off his back. spidey can do 10-15 tons routinely
wonderman stopped a printing press from crushing down on someone for a while, the tonnage was 50,000 psi or some shit like that.
on the other hand you have a not pissed at all banner-hulk bracing that inner cavity of a mountain that was 150,000,000,000 tons.
both characters can military press 100 tons routinely thus class 100+, but they are not peers when it gets serious.
it's a bell-curve system
Originally posted by quanchi112
The handbooks are jokes anyways
That's my point. Marvel's classifcation system is flawed as hell.
and Spiderman isn't portrayed as lifting 100 tons it's a few feats artists threw up with nerds applying weight to with their calculators like I have seen numerous zelda fans do with zelda games.
No. It's a simple matter of knowing or referencing the weight of things he's lifted. 100 ton objects are not particularly big. Moderate sized boulders weigh that much. Tanks can weigh that much, often more. Spiderman has thrown around tanks and such.
Hulk coming in at 500 tons means he would be weaker than he's ever been in his life, if taken by its literal meaning. (which I'm just doing for giggles, I know what the TS actually means.)
Originally posted by CosmicCometAgain, most writers don't even know what the artists drawings realistically weigh and people like you trying to assign real numbers to it is hilarious.
That's my point. Marvel's classifcation system is flawed as hell.No. It's a simple matter of knowing or referencing the weight of things he's lifted. 100 ton objects are not particularly big. Moderate sized boulders weigh that much. Tanks can weigh that much, often more. Spiderman has thrown around tanks and such.
Hulk coming in at 500 tons means he would be weaker than he's ever been in his life, if taken by its literal meaning. (which I'm just doing for giggles, I know what the TS actually means.)
You won't ever get how most of these feats are actually thought up and will contiue to feat it up with video games and comics despite common sense screaming in your face.
We argue how these characters are commonly portrayed and here's a writer explaining how the real world works.
Kurt Busiek--hey don't even make sense half the time -- if a stat in the Handbook says that Character A can lift 120 tons, most artists don't know what 120 tons looks like, and they don't go and check whether a particular airplane or tank or whatever is within the character's stated limits; they just figure that means "wicked strong" and draw what looks to them appropriately "wicked."
I think that system works better than assigning numbers -- all that happens when you do that is that someone says Spider-Man can lift 40 tons (or whatever) because of that humongous machine he lifted once with incredible effort, and then bang, all of a sudden it's his standard strength, and fans who use to see Spider-Man go up against three guys with lead pipes and think it was an okay fight are going, "No way! He can lift 40 tons! That means he can juggle Buicks!"