French parliament approves face veil ban

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
This reminds me of a news story a friend emailed me a while back:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2642956/Tesco-supermarket-bans-Jedi-Knight-for-wearing-hood.html

"I'll advise worshippers to boycott Tesco if it happens again. They will feel the Force."

If only that were true, it'd be epic.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Is wearing a mask in public illegal in France?

Originally posted by Mindship
If I looked like I belonged to a group associated with causing trouble, then unfairly or not I could see the cause for concern.

I'm just wondering if your point is right, do you know whether wearing a mask in public generally illegal in France or not?

Don't know the laws per se, but wearing a balaclava (escpecially outside of winter) is a logical reason of concern for police/authorities. Considering it's used by criminals in committing crimes.

Muslim women wearing veils attacking/bombing isn't something that happens often, I wouldn't think.

So the comparison, is a bit silly.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm just wondering if your point is right, do you know whether wearing a mask in public generally illegal in France or not?

Based on this excerpt from the article, I would guess not. But they're workin' on it.

Originally posted by Mindship
Officials have taken pains to craft language that does not single out Muslims. While the proposed legislation is colloquially referred to as the "anti-burqa law," it is officially called "the bill to forbid concealing one's face in public."
It refers neither to Islam nor to veils. Officials insist the law against face-covering is not discriminatory because it would apply to everyone, not just Muslims. Yet they cite a host of exceptions, including motorcycle helmets, or masks for health reasons, fencing, skiing or carnivals.

Based on this excerpt from the article, I would guess not. But they're workin' on it.

Maybe just make an exception for non-muslim face concealment...might save time.

Originally posted by Mindship
Officials have taken pains to craft language that does not single out Muslims. While the proposed legislation is colloquially referred to as the "anti-burqa law," it is officially called "the bill to forbid concealing one's face in public."
It refers neither to Islam nor to veils. Officials insist the law against face-covering is not discriminatory because it would apply to everyone, not just Muslims. Yet they cite a host of exceptions, including motorcycle helmets, or masks for health reasons, fencing, skiing or carnivals.

Based on this excerpt from the article, I would guess not. But they're workin' on it.

I guess France is going to suck in the winter...

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't know the laws per se, but wearing a balaclava (escpecially outside of winter) is a logical reason of concern for police/authorities. Considering it's used by criminals in committing crimes.

Muslim women wearing veils attacking/bombing isn't something that happens often, I wouldn't think.

So the comparison, is a bit silly.

Except those burka wearing gunmen who went into a French bank and robed it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7189090/Burka-wearing-gunmen-raid-French-bank.html

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Except those burka wearing gunmen who went into a French bank and robed it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7189090/Burka-wearing-gunmen-raid-French-bank.html

Does this happen often?

Originally posted by Robtard
Does this happen often?

I don't know, does suicide bombing in America happen often?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't know, does suicide bombing in America happen often?

But what do you guys even consider "often"?

Originally posted by Juk3n
bcause the argument would become "see, we're not wearing our veils in France and nothin bad is happenng, the wives are still loyal even though the guy in the supermarket saw my mouth as i said thank you for my change" As i said before, people born into oppression usually don't know they're being oppressed. Im tired of peple having to tread on eggshells because some thing is 'cultural' , being cultural doesn't mean correct or just. There was even some talk in islamic circles in iran to make women wear a veil that covers one eye aswell, because " a women could seduce a man with her eyes, and cause themselves to be raped " - id bet many muslim women would find the very noton ridiculous, but nonetheless would have to go through with it.

All im saying is once women realize that te world isnt going to end if they take there veils off and men won't suddenly rape them to death because there hair and there nike sweater can be seen, they might start to question a few other imposed 'cultural' laws and regulations.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't know, does suicide bombing in America happen often?

No, they don't.

Do you really think Burkas should be banned due to the very-off chance some bank robber while use one to commit a crime?

If we were to search all bank robberies in France, there's a very good chance that robbers have used hats, sunglasses, make-up and wigs to conceal their identity. Not sure you'd agreed that France should ban these too.

Originally posted by Bardock42

But what do you guys even consider "often"?

If there were many bank robberies, say several a year where Burka-clad robbers did the robbing, I'd understand if France outlawed Burkas in banks.

Originally posted by Mindship
Officials have taken pains to craft language that does not single out Muslims. While the proposed legislation is colloquially referred to as the "anti-burqa law," it is officially called "the bill to forbid concealing one's face in public."
It refers neither to Islam nor to veils. Officials insist the law against face-covering is not discriminatory because it would apply to everyone, not just Muslims. Yet they cite a host of exceptions, including motorcycle helmets, or masks for health reasons, fencing, skiing or carnivals.

Based on this excerpt from the article, I would guess not. But they're workin' on it.

i just came from the bank... i was wearing shades and a hat with a full beard.. no one said anything to me.. i am also pretty sure it is illegal to wear hats and shades in my state inside a bank.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't know, does suicide bombing in America happen often?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think so.

But what do you guys even consider "often"?

Good question, and I have no idea what 'often' would entail in bank robberies? Do we calculate each month or year, or according to how many robberies there are around the world, than find a mean and use it as an average?

I haven't a clue.

Originally posted by 753
No, but how does that connect to this debate?

It has. Suicide bombing doesn't happen often in America, there is therefore no need to have a tight aeroplane and airport security. Because...it doesn't happen ''often''.

No, that's not digging deep to validate a stance and making illogical comparisons, not at all.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Good question, and I have no idea what 'often' would entail in bank robberies? Do we calculate each month or year, or according to how many robberies there are around the world, than find a mean and use it as an average?

I haven't a clue.

It has. Suicide bombing doesn't happen often in America, there is therefore no need to have a tight aeroplane and airport security. Because...it doesn't happen ''often''.

I completely agree with the second part, **** airport security.