French parliament approves face veil ban

Originally posted by Bardock42
Is wearing a mask in public illegal in France?

I believe this law would make it illegal. Supposedly there is an exception for Santa costumes, which I suspect will make for some humorous bank robberies or 4chan protests.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't know, how many teachers rape the children they are in charge of?

Okay, good point. Still, it seems that the extent of the problem is over estimated. 5000000 Muslims, 2000 women in burquas and apparently at least a few of them converted to Islam.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I completely agree with the second part, **** airport security.

They guy in Munich told me to take my belt off this morning. That was weird.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It has. Suicide bombing doesn't happen often in America, there is therefore no need to have a tight aeroplane and airport security. Because...it doesn't happen ''often''.

I'm not sure that's sound logic. Tight security would tend to discourage attacks that require passing through check points.

Or if we have an analogy. I build a zoo (America) with some walls (security) to keep the animals (brown folk) from attacking visitors (American). Should a lack of visitors getting killed by animals make me consider taking down the walls?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I believe this law would make it illegal. Supposedly there is an exception for Santa costumes, which I suspect will make for some humorous bank robberies or 4chan protests.

Well, at least they are somewhat fair in unfairly targetting a specific group.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Okay, good point. Still, it seems that the extent of the problem is over estimated. 5000000 Muslims, 2000 women in burquas and apparently at least a few of them converted to Islam.

I do agree with you. Like I said (or perhaps wanted to say and never did) I agree with it for public building, if the government wants to ban it there, fair enough, I also think that private owners should have the right to ban them in their establishments... especially banks, of course. But to ban them to be worn them just in public (any sort of face concealment, actually) seems rather unfair, and also somewhat pointless.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They guy in Munich told me to take my belt off this morning. That was weird.

Airport or gay bar?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They guy in Munich told me to take my belt off this morning. That was weird.

my nipple rings set off the metal detectors in Winnipeg earlier this week

never happens at American airports though...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It's a great decision and the one that has been long overdue. If they want to wear such clothes they can move to Saudi Arabia.

I argee why should they do that?They are not arab or anything so what is the point?To me this is almost praising people who bomb us at 911

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm not sure that's sound logic. Tight security would tend to discourage attacks that require passing through check points.

Or if we have an analogy. I build a zoo (America) with some walls (security) to keep the animals (brown folk) from attacking visitors (American). Should a lack of visitors getting killed by animals make me consider taking down the walls?

Well that's interesting, since your logic is not sound at all. In fact, you're talking about walling people (or animals as your example states) off.

However, banks, government buildings and public places have for a very long time, not allowed, sunglasses, baseball caps, motorcycle helmets, hoods or any such coverings onto their premisses, for security reasons.
In fact, if you attempted to enter with any of those, you will be asked to remove them. There is, therefore, a sound reason for not allowing this type of clothes.

There is clearly a difference in wearing a head scarf and looking normal

and wearing a ninja tent

I see no problem with banning this kind of clothing. Teachers who insist on wearing niqab should not be allowed to work as teachers either.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm not sure that's sound logic. Tight security would tend to discourage attacks that require passing through check points.

Or if we have an analogy. I build a zoo (America) with some walls (security) to keep the animals (brown folk) from attacking visitors (American). Should a lack of visitors getting killed by animals make me consider taking down the walls?

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I argee why should they do that?They are not arab or anything so what is the point?

To me this is almost praising people who bomb us at 911

You're a moron.

Originally posted by 753
...You're a moron.

Now, now... no personal attacks: You should say "your way of thinking is moronic". 😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Now, now... no personal attacks: You should say "your way of thinking is moronic". 😄

Originally posted by King Kandy
The problem is, I don't think we really have any statistics showing that a large number of attacks were deterred by tough security.

Not that it would be possible at all to get such statistics (unless you're willing to eliminate security and see how many people die, I guess) But it's very hard to imagine that security wouldn't deter anyone.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Well that's interesting, since your logic is not sound at all. In fact, you're talking about walling people (or animals as your example states) off.

I literally preceded that sentence with the words: "Or if we have an analogy."

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Or if we have an analogy.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not that it would be possible at all to get such statistics (unless you're willing to eliminate security and see how many people die, I guess) But it's very hard to imagine that security wouldn't deter anyone.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I disagree. Most terrorists aren't retards, if they were able to plan an attack, they could plan a way to get around security. Usually they're pretty bright people, from what i've heard.

Originally posted by 753
But it makes it more difficult. If people could simply carry common weapons into the plane the number of incidents would probably be higher. However, most (reasonable) airport security procedures revolve arround preventing drug trafficking, not plane hijackings that are so rare, even if they do come up with more pointless crap, like airport racial profiling, everytime there is a hijack to make people feel safer.

Originally posted by 753
But it makes it more difficult. If people could simply carry common weapons into the plane the number of incidents would probably be higher. However, most (reasonable) airport security procedures revolve arround preventing drug trafficking, not plane hijackings that are so rare, even if they do come up with more pointless crap, like airport racial profiling, everytime there is a hijack to make people feel safer.

Maybe they should legalize all drugs so they can focus on the real problems.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Maybe they should legalize all drugs so they can focus on the real problems.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Well that's interesting, since your logic is not sound at all. In fact, you're talking about walling people (or animals as your example states) off.

However, banks, government buildings and public places have for a very long time, not allowed, sunglasses, baseball caps, motorcycle helmets, hoods or any such coverings onto their premisses, for security reasons.
In fact, if you attempted to enter with any of those, you will be asked to remove them. There is, therefore, a sound reason for not allowing this type of clothes.

I see no problem with banning this kind of clothing. Teachers who insist on wearing niqab should not be allowed to work as teachers either.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness

There is clearly a difference in wearing a head scarf and looking normal

and wearing a ninja tent

I see no problem with banning this kind of clothing. Teachers who insist on wearing niqab should not be allowed to work as teachers either.

Define normal?

Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Since when have sunglasses and baseball caps been banned in public places? I understand banning them in banks and government buildings, but not banning them outright.

Public places was a poor choice of words. I meant government buildings, banks and such. Although I don't doubt if you went out with some kind of complete face covering during the summer or spring, you'd be deemed suspicious wherever you went, maybe even stopped.

This is just extreme

Originally posted by Robtard
Define normal?

Islamic norm.

PARIS - The French parliaments lower house overwhelmingly approved a ban on wearing headscarf style. The part of a determined effort to define and protect French values that the community has puzzled many Muslim countries.