Captain America vs Batgirl

Started by King Castle7 pages

yeah, one is lots better.. from seeing x-ray like style seeing the muscles contract and prepare to move as well as hearing the noise blood pumping slight weight shift.. DD's is far superior in every way and he couldnt keep up with cap.

Besides Cypher, I honestly haven't seen anyone from Marvel display a similar form of bodily-reactions.

Originally posted by Hank_Henshaw
I never did, just pointing out the fact that Cap has lost to him before.

The only time Cap has come anywhere close to losing to DD is when DD got the drop several Avengers in the dark and then booked it. Other than possibly their fight in DOA, Cap has had a solid advantage every time they've fought.

Originally posted by King Castle
yeah, one is lots better.. from seeing x-ray like style seeing the muscles contract and prepare to move as well as hearing the noise blood pumping slight weight shift.. DD's is far superior in every way and he couldnt keep up with cap.

No, they work different, DD's is senses and Cass's is a mental power, and in terms of 'telling what's going to happen next' Cassandra's has better feats I believe.

Like HH said, Cypher's power is about the only similar one in Marvel.

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What I'm getting is a solid impression from several people that "If we don't count Cassandra's signature advantages, Capt stomps."

Which is a 'duh' thing, but isn't exactly a helpful conclusion. Playing down one character's powers significantly isn't so much arguing Cass.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The only time Cap has come anywhere close to losing to DD is when DD got the drop several Avengers in the dark and then booked it. Other than possibly their fight in DOA, Cap has had a solid advantage every time they've fought.

IIRC They've fought 3-4 times, and, yeah, I was referring to the one where DD took out everyone in the room except for Natasha. That was one of their two fights where brainwashing was in effect, and I can understand why you wouldn't consider that one win valid, although an argument could be made for DOA.

Originally posted by Hank_Henshaw
Besides Cypher, I honestly haven't seen anyone from Marvel display a similar form of bodily-reactions.

Daredevil does.

Elektra was stated as having the ability one time, in a single panel description of her abilities, but has largely been ignored subsequently as she is a telepathy and that pretty much trumps body reading.

Wolverine's instinctively reads subliminal cues in body language and muscle movement, but he has trained to ignore it since it was setting off his B-Rage, as he was reading threats and insults in peoples mannerisms that they weren't even consciously aware they were making.

the good ole days when he was very anti social and couldnt stand being around humans... always angry at his team for saying one thing but projecting other things like fear, loathing and dislike.

Cap with shield and without..... DC's martial artists are all over-hyped and would have troubles beating the White tiger but can hang with Superman by using a little kryptonite. Martial artists with equalizers is what Batman and his kin are. Cap has superhuman martial arts abilities in Marvel and has far more durability thanks to his enhancements.

Batgirl is missing the equalizer she would usually have.

All I see is Marvel martial artists being hyped in this very thread.

Originally posted by iceman24567
All I see is Marvel martial artists being hyped in this very thread.

It's not hype when talking about Marvels MA Heirachy though, they're just on another level. Barring KK 😛

So Marvels Ma dial goes to 11? 🙂 not buying it just yet

Originally posted by iceman24567
So Marvels Ma dial goes to 11? 🙂 not buying it just yet

Marvel has a much more varied and numerous amount of active street level martial artists. It's a statistical improbability that the best of each world would be equal.

Originally posted by Juk3n
It's not hype when talking about Marvels MA Heirachy though, they're just on another level. Barring KK 😛

I never understood this, honestly. How are they on another level?

its a lil known fact on average the MU MA'ers have more higher end feats overall then DC.

if you need actual reference look at IF, shang, Ogun, Stick, Elektra, mandarin

I'm talking about hth skills. Not various powers. DC has 3 Karate Kids that would school all of those above. Not to mention a Jin Si a Judomaster that cannot be hit because of her own will power.

Come on everybody you listed has some sort of superhuman ability 😬

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I never understood this, honestly. How are they on another level?
IDK they just are.

Oh and Cap takes this in both scenarios

^ Not a answer to his question 😐

Originally posted by iceman24567
Come on everybody you listed has some sort of superhuman ability 😬

Superhuman powers all derived - with the exception of Iron Fist - solely through training. Their abilities are an extension of martial skill and discipline.