Originally posted by NightstickStronger than Riddick? Hardly.Human Scorpion King is an entirely different beast. He has a shot at taking down Riddick. As he kicked as much arse as Riddick, was stronger and damn good at the whole stealth thing himself.
But I do agree that he has a chance at beating him.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Stronger than Riddick? Hardly.
The guy was able to climb the side of a building while hauling a rock larger then himself, then press said rock above his head. Not to mention that the pull on his bow must have been enormous to send people flying the way it did.
Riddick while strong has no feats that I recall that put him in to that territory.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, Riddick lifted Kyra one handed over his head and threw her twenty feet. Not to mention lifting Necromomgers over his head as if they were nothing.
The Kyra toss suggests strength in the Ton range, which is impressive, but I'm still not certain its enough to edge out the Scorpion King. It's close though.
In other words these two are going to be very evenly matched.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Human SK, yes, that'd be one helluva match.
Yeah I mean human Scorpion King, monster Scorpion King as I said was kind of a joke.
Just double checked the numbers for boulder weight here http://www.ehow.com/how_6395587_calculate-boulders-tons.html
based on that, Scorpion King was lifting between 2 and 8 tons. Which should make him a fair bit stronger then Riddick, but it still gonna be a great fight.
Originally posted by Nightstick
Yeah I mean human Scorpion King, monster Scorpion King as I said was kind of a joke.Just double checked the numbers for boulder weight here http://www.ehow.com/how_6395587_calculate-boulders-tons.html
based on that, Scorpion King was lifting between 2 and 8 tons. Which should make him a fair bit stronger then Riddick, but it still gonna be a great fight.
Combat speed is important here, Riddick showed greater combat speed IMO.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I think you effed up the math, dude, that's more than a truck haermm
Go check it yourself mate. The rock was at least 4ft tall and 4ft across, with a width of at least 2. That is 4x4x2 for 32 cubic feet. The lightest rock mentioned was a 150lbs per cubic ft. So 32x150=4,800lbs divided by 2,000(as 2,000lbs is a ton)=2, well 2.4, but the point stands. If we on the other hand assume the the rock was 6x6x3(considering it was at least the same size as the Scorpion King, this is not hard to believe). The Cubic footage would be 108. If you multiple that by the sights suggested average for rock weight, which is 162lbs per cubic foot. The you are looking at about 17,496lbs. Divided by 2,000 that is 8.748 or nearly 9 tons. So the estimate of 2 to 8 has a nice margin for error, but puts us in the ball park. For the record most SUV weigh between 3 and 4 tons.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Combat speed is important here, Riddick showed greater combat speed IMO. [/B]
As far as this goes, I'm gonna have to double check. Are their any specific feats for Riddick. You'd like me to look at?
Originally posted by Nightstick
Go check it yourself mate. The rock was at least 4ft tall and 4ft across, with a width of at least 2. That is 4x4x2 for 32 cubic feet. The lightest rock mentioned was a 150lbs per cubic ft. So 32x150=4,800lbs divided by 2,000(as 2,000lbs is a ton)=2, well 2.4, but the point stands. If we on the other hand assume the the rock was 6x6x3(considering it was at least the same size as the Scorpion King, this is not hard to believe). The Cubic footage would be 108. If you multiple that by the sights suggested average for rock weight, which is 162lbs per cubic foot. The you are looking at about 17,496lbs. Divided by 2,000 that is 8.748 or nearly 9 tons. So the estimate of 2 to 8 has a nice margin for error, but puts us in the ball park. For the record most SUV weigh between 3 and 4 tons.
Kelly Hu is HOT.
As far as this goes, I'm gonna have to double check. Are their any specific feats for Riddick. You'd like me to look at?Vid I posted earlier.
Originally posted by NightstickI said a truck, not an SUV. The Kelly Hu comment was me losing interest.
I'm sure this is some kind of joke, but I'll admit. I don't get the reference or meaning. Can you clarify your intent.
I'll go back and watch it then.The most impressive thing is that he defeats the entire horde. DD had trouble with Elektra, Bullseye and Kingpin, Riddick would have wiped his ass with all three of them.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I said a truck, not an SUV. The Kelly Hu comment was me losing interest.
My estimate for Scorpion King's strength was between 2 and 8 tons. Meaning if an SUV weighs 2-4 tons the rock weighed less then an SUV and their for more then likely a truck. Double checking truck weight, depending on the type, pick up trucks weigh between 2 and 6 tons on average. So the rock only weighed more then a truck on the extreme high end.
As for losing interest. If you lose interest in calcs that quick. It might be best if you don't question them.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The most impressive thing is that he defeats the entire horde. DD had trouble with Elektra, Bullseye and Kingpin, Riddick would have wiped his ass with all three of them. [/B]
Wrong thread mate. Daredevil ain't in this one. As for Scorpion King he went threw crowds of people as well.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You are claiming that Human SK is stronger than YuLaw and Gabe Law combined. Think about it.
I am not sure claiming is the right word. Nor have I run the numbers on Yulaw and Gabe Law strength, so I can't comment on that.
All I did was quantify feats from the movies in question. What I "think about it" isn't importent. Feats are feats and feats are what we use here.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Really now? What's SK gonna do when Riddick lops off his pinchers? Hmm?Can you prove that SK won;t die when Riddick stabs him in the brain?
Thought not.
Everyone pay attention, DDM is about to do his thing where he parrots, repeats himself, and trolls his ass off because he's losing.
No, this is where you've been trolling since page 1 by ignoring the thread starter's request to NOT use the exaggerated cartoon, pretend that what was seen on screen doesn't exist, and then parrot yourself, over and over again.
Fact: You gotta have the spear.
Fact: Only the spear harmed him.
Fact: Even large, solid, stone pillars acted like pre-broken chalk under the SK's might.
Fact: You are ignoring those items because you lost the thread on page 1 and can't admit you were wrong.
It is not up to us to prove that Riddick can cut off anything from the SK as that's not something that you can even prove to begin with. You cannot remove powers/abilities from characters simply because it does not suit your idea of how things should play out.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You are claiming that Human SK is stronger than YuLaw and Gabe Law combined. Think about it.
No, Yulaw grabed two motorcycles and smacked them togther like they were paper. The strength required to do that puts his strength well above a 10-ton lifter.
Originally posted by dadudemon
No, this is where you've been trolling since page 1 by ignoring the thread starter's request to NOT use the exaggerated cartoon, pretend that what was seen on screen doesn't exist, and then parrot yourself, over and over again.Fact: You gotta have the spear.
Fact: Only the spear harmed him.
Fact: Even large, solid, stone pillars acted like pre-broken chalk under the SK's might.
Fact: You are ignoring those items because you lost the thread on page 1 and can't admit you were wrong.
It is not up to us to prove that Riddick can cut off anything from the SK as that's not something that you can even prove to begin with. You cannot remove powers/abilities from characters simply because it does not suit your idea of how things should play out.
No, Yulaw grabed two motorcycles and smacked them togther like they were paper. The strength required to do that puts his strength well above a 10-ton lifter.
Dude, I have moved on from Dark Fury, I am now discussing live action Riddick.
You got proof that SK's arms, at the elbows, you know, the flesh and bone parts, would not fall off after Riddick's blades slice clean through them?
No, you don't.
Now, once SK is literally disarmed, what's he to do?
Nothing.
Now, you got proof that when Riddick buries his 12 inch blade hilt deep in SK's brain, it won't kill him?
No, you don't.
Tell you what, we need someone who has the dvd to view it and tell us exactly what was said, word for word, when the hieroglyphics on the wall were being read (when it was explained that the Spear of Osiris can kill SK.) Did it say, word for word, that the spear is the ONLY way of killing SK? Or that it is a WAY of killing SK?
This needs to be addressed. And I can't find a vid of it.