Originally posted by Galan007
I don't need to find more evidence, actually. It's your turn to provide evidence pertaining to how Mace would win (if that is, in fact, your opinion.) 😉
Actually, you do need to find more evidence. During his fight with Grievous, Kenobi fought incredibly. According to the novelization, he matched Grievous up to twenty strikes per second. During the film, he shows a remarkable awareness of his surroundings and the ability to use the arena to his advantage. However, as the novelization shows, Kenobi wasn't doing this on his own.
At one point, the narrator notes that his opponent "is beyond him." Kenobi wasn't outdueling Grievous with skills, but rather with the Force. The fight on Utapau is, in fact, one of the most notable examples of Jedi 'one-with-the-Force'ness in the mythos. (The only person that surpasses this showing is Jacen, in a state that "will never be replicated."😉 For all the splendor of this feat, it doesn't speak to Kenobi's actual technical skill. His most impressive showing, then, doesn't apply to this scenario. (Even if we were allowing the Force in this match, you'd have a hard time proving that it is replicable.)
The evidence you've brought to the table simply doesn't apply to this thread; the fight with Grievous is just as much a Force feat as it is a lightsaber feat.
I refuse to argue under artificial constraints:
Amend the parameters to "Windu Vs. Kenobi" and I'll be interested. I simply don't know how to argue this particular question, since I don't know what a Jedi fighting without the Force looks like, especially these two Jedi.
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And I'm not using ABC logic. Mace has dueled GG. Obi-Wan has dueled GG. Mace barely managed to hold his own. Obi-Wan dominated. GG is the only common denominator between Mace/Obi, thus it's logical to use him as a bearing for their lightsaber skill. [/B]
That's exactly what you're doing. Mace is fighting Obi-Wan, not Grievous. There are a lot of different factors the contribute to the outcome of a fight, and deciding based on this one factoid ignores a lot of them.