Lot of idiotic chat here, and this fight is stupid when dealing with a non-PIS situation. No street leveller (and i use the term lightly when dealing with Cap) should beat X without an outside force or counter ability - Elektra with her tp for instance, or Ironfist with some Chi-manipulation.
To suggest otherwise is counter to his powerset , which is the exact powerset of a character who cannot be beaten by ANYONE who is a match for him in physicality. It doesn't matter how many styles taskmaster knows, X ability is tht his mind AUTO-locks on to ANY brain impulses of his opponent and his body automatically responds. Why should it matter of Taskmaster is fighting like Daredevil/then switch to Blade/Then switch to Elektra/then switch to Panther...does his brain function change? No. Is he still consciously throwing punches and kicks tryng to defeat his opponent? Yes. If he's not using his "double time speed" (and even if he is considering X's true bullet time reflexes) should he be able to hit X on a forum? No.
Cap loses here, he can't win especially in a sword duel. And i challenge someone to comeup with a suitable winning scenerio for Cap that doesn't involve ignoring X's abilities - as has sometimes been done by stupid writing in comics.
To clarify. X cannot lose against the following in a MELEE encounter;
Batman
Nightwing
Shiva
Daredevil
Punisher
Blade
Taskmaster
Cap
and anyone considered on this level that does not have alternate offensive output or defenses tp or chi-manip that X cannot counter ie; Elektra, Shang-Chi, Ironfist or Wolverine.
Originally posted by King Castle
pffff. chi shouldnt work period... nor drunken style..
depends on th chi, X can block Ironfists Ampe blow right? well it's Ironnfst so whats the use him blockin if he loses an arm in the process? Shang-Chi and Elektra can project chi attacks, can't block them. X' ability isa counter to physical confrontations not meta physical. Drunken style definetley shouldn't have worked, thats PIS at it's very worst. The Woverine berserk thing i can hang with, because it's an altered mind state and altered brainwave patterns. But simply changing a fighting style should have no effect on X's ability.
taskmaster is running thru over a million different moves that he could use, analyzing the fighting style his opponent is using, and copying that (if he doesnt have it). thats in addition to normal fighting stuff. i think its possible for the correct information to get lost in transition or an information overload on x's part
X's own style is rooted in his very own specific brain function, it doesn' matter if taskmater can copy X's moves, he can't copy his brain, and there is no reasn for taskmaster to land a hit on X. He isnt vastly superior in any particular catagory and at the end of the day, if taskmaster i consciously throwin punches and kick (as opposed to the auto pilot way berserker Wolverine would fight -- ) then X is blocking or parrying everything. X's body reacts automtically granting him forehand knowledge of the impending attack and the location grantin him extremeley favourable counter attack options.
Only someone who operates faster than X's body can react should really have a chance at bypassing his autopilot. Cap and Taskmaster lack this operating speed to an effectve degree.
Originally posted by Juk3n
X's own style is rooted in his very own specific brain function, it doesn' matter if taskmater can copy X's moves, he can't copy his brain, and there is no reasn for taskmaster to land a hit on X. He isnt vastly superior in any particular catagory and at the end of the day, if taskmaster i consciously throwin punches and kick (as opposed to the auto pilot way berserker Wolverine would fight -- ) then X is blocking or parrying everything. X's body reacts automtically granting him forehand knowledge of the impending attack and the location grantin him extremeley favourable counter attack options.Only someone who operates faster than X's body can react should really have a chance at bypassing his autopilot. Cap and Taskmaster lack this operating speed to an effectve degree.
I would think that their abilities would cancel eachother's out, because Mr. X has the tp, and because Tasky would know every move that Mr. X could throw to counter it. But I still say that Taskmaster should still win.
Originally posted by King Castle
cap would have an even worse time against X.. look at how he has strugled with taskmaster in the past
His last fight showed an unarmed Cap doing relatively well against Taskmaster who had explosive arrows and a sword and a shield
Originally posted by King Castle
and yes i am counting the powerpack story..uggh
Not canon.
Originally posted by Deadline
His last fight showed an unarmed Cap doing relatively well against Taskmaster who had explosive arrows and a sword and a shieldNot canon.
Actually, the last fight was Tasky fighting both Caps at the same time during Siege...
Anyway X wins this.
And while Tasky should probably have done a little better against X, he can't beat X whilst X's powers still operate fully, as he can't counter telepathy. The same reason Wolverine couldn't gain an advantage no matter how he fought.
Originally posted by Deadline
I just found them in the respect thread. In all fairness he didn't actually engage both of them in h2h and when Bucky took over Task was bleeding and actually had the advantage.
At what point did it look like Bucky had the advantage? When he tried to attack Tasky from behind as Task was talking to Cap as he left?
Tbf, I wish the fight was longer, but Gage had a lot to cover in that issue and it was a nice fight for what it was.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
At what point did it look like Bucky had the advantage? When he tried to attack Tasky from behind as Task was talking to Cap as he left?Tbf, I wish the fight was longer, but Gage had a lot to cover in that issue and it was a nice fight for what it was.
Not Bucky, Steve. Taskmaster was on his knees after getting kneed by Cap. It was an impressive showing but doesn't prove he can beat Cap in h2h.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really? Damn. I was sure he faced Swordsman or one opponent wielding a blade. Okay. Cap tosses his word and beats his face in.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm pretty sure he told a told a great of his opponents since he came back into the fold.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Iron Fist, and Cho used their abilities to render Mr. X useless. Wolverine having a shitty track record against him isn't my fault.
Cho moves was legitment. But Capt has no prayer of pulling that off becuase he does not percieve the world anything like cho does.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
. X would be one of those henchmen villains Cap owns to get to the true bad guy unless Tieri is writing it.
Originally posted by Starscream M
and you're underestimating cap's
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugancap is also the best fighter in marvel...x is not. that is a significant factor.
not at all. Capt has shown extremely limmited sword skill while X has shown to be a master with bladed weapons far beyond anything capt has shown, he also a TP and body which auto lock to capts impulses, making him beyond what capt will be able to deal with in this scenerio.
Originally posted by Starscream M
cap is also the best fighter in marvel...x is not. that is a significant factor.
X has shown just what he can do to elite MA. He clearly on there level in skill and hgis powers make him quite beyond.