Mr. X vs Captain America(sword fight)

Started by Dum Dum Dugan7 pages
Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Deadline
I think alot of it had to do with the fact he was a nutter as well.

Well he ain't now thats for sure.


lol yea he is crazy, he fight dirty in a street fighter.

true lol, he funny as hell though in hangover

Deadline Junior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
not ignorances it simply knowing facts. Go look at his record champ. He lots to chumps and the only top ten boxer he actaully facing beat his ass twice.

then look at people like george forman who face several top ten boxer and simple has more impressive record then tyson.

Yea if you look at his WHOLE record but when he first started out he was the best then he slipped not sure how thats relevant anyway.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
not ignorances it simply knowing facts. Go look at his record champ. He lots to chumps and the only top ten boxer he actaully facing beat his ass twice.

then look at people like george forman who face several top ten boxer and simple has more impressive record then tyson.

I didn't say he was the best

but you said he isn't top 15

name 15 boxers who are better than a peak tyson

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
again vastly underrating Mr. X abilities.

you be mistaken.

I'm not the only one apparently.

Really? I'll take your word for it. I just recall his opponents coming to the realization of how powers work. I know he said something to tip off Iron Fist for sure.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
PIS is not allowed in forum battles. IF moment was PIS. It was shown on pannel that he trained himself to combat just what IF did. It was PIS plain and simple by a writer who took over for a single issue and is a hack.

Cho moves was legitment. But Capt has no prayer of pulling that off becuase he does not percieve the world anything like cho does.

Apparently if your skilled enough, you can bypass his abilities. Too Logan isn't on Iron Fist's level. 🙁

Captain America does have an enhanced mind that processes information more efficiently, specifically when it comes to combat but I doubt that his mind would shown as being too foreign for Mr. X to understand. He was able to read Wolverine. I'll give the guy some credit.

It'd be funny to see to Batroc the Leaper own Mr. X however. His thoughts are in French!

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
tieri is his creator you do realises right?

Yes, I know this. Tieri's more than likely the only one who cares about Mr. X in his line of work.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Deadline
Yea if you look at his WHOLE record but when he first started out he was the best then he slipped not sure how thats relevant anyway.

He fought chumps man he was fed. He started losing because he started fighting legit guys, hell his first loss was to a no body. This is prior to him going nuts.

foreman is the much more accomplished bozer. Tyson ranked something like 16 overall greatest heavy weights. People like foreman is rank 7th.

there a reason foreman fought the best of the best.

Tyson was fighting chumps becuase during his riegn boxing had splinter and became so corrupted that they would protect there fighters like tyson.

Deadline Junior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
I didn't say he was the best

but you said he isn't top 15

name 15 boxers who are better than a peak tyson

Whatever, tagent.

For the record if you look at some martial arts films oriental martial artists study boxing to gain an advantage because it has much more flexibility look at Fist of Legend and Way Of The Dragon (not sure, the film where Bruce Lee fights Chuck Norris). Also Bruce Lee studied boxing. Boxing isn't like Karate but I see no reason why it can't be considered to be a martial art.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
I didn't say he was the best

but you said he isn't top 15

name 15 boxers who are better than a peak tyson


easy hell I could name 15ish heavy weights who are better.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Lol, boxing.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Deadline
Whatever, tagent.

For the record if you look at some martial arts films oriental martial artists study boxing to gain an advantage because it has much more flexibility look at Fist of Legend and Way Of The Dragon (not sure, the film where Bruce Lee fights Chuck Norris). Also Bruce Lee studied boxing. Boxing isn't like Karate but I see no reason why it can't be considered to be a martial art.


cosigned.

espicially consider people who know only BBJ and boxing are consider MMA

Deadline Junior Member

GUYS???!!!!! OFF TOPIC OR WHAT! Hold it down you two. 😬

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not the only one apparently.

Really? I'll take your word for it. I just recall his opponents coming to the realization of how powers work. I know he said something to tip off Iron Fist for sure.


IF thing was PIS plain and simple I cant even believe your trying to uses it as evidences. The entire thing was IF, Luke wank fest in which thunderbolts were written out of character and powers were ignored.

Some of his opponents had files on him thats why.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Apparently if your skilled enough, you can bypass his abilities. Too Logan isn't on Iron Fist's level. 🙁

except thats not how it works. Drunken fist goes on pure instincts which is something x trained against making such a move impossible, but remeber being a hack just did zero backround info on the thunderbolts.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Captain America does have an enhanced mind that processes information more efficiently, specifically when it comes to combat but I doubt that his mind would shown as being too foreign for Mr. X to understand. He was able to read Wolverine. I'll give the guy some credit.

and taskmaster who mind is also enhanced.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It'd be funny to see to Batroc the Leaper own Mr. X however. His thoughts are in French!

lol I wonder how that would work, it be a funny read. Though X is fluent in many language I believe, not sure about french.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, I know this. Tieri's more than likely the only one who cares about Mr. X in his line of work.

writer of thunderbolts seemed to like him.

I liked him, he had possibilities but they just sent him right back to the celler after thunderbolts ended

Deadline Junior Member
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, boxing.

😬

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
easy hell I could name 15ish heavy weights who are better.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier

I'll take issue with that list. Iron Mike at his peak was a monster, perhaps -IMO -the greatest boxer who ever lived... and he never even approached is full potential. After Cus D'Amato died Tyson wasn't even close to the same boxer. His training slacked and he stopped fighting seriously.

When he was at his best Tyson was one of the greats... suggestion otherwise is crazy. Peak Tyson would mangle pretty much everyone on that list.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Paul Pender as well dispite boxing black balling him

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
easy hell I could name 15ish heavy weights who are better.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier

like you know half of those guys 🙄

you basically just copied and pasted the list

Deadline Junior Member

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'll take issue with that list. Iron Mike at his peak was a monster, perhaps -IMO -the greatest boxer who ever lived... and he never even approached is full potential. After Cus D'Amato died Tyson wasn't even close to the same boxer. His training slacked and he stopped fighting seriously.

When he was at his best Tyson was one of the greats... suggestion otherwise is crazy. Peak Tyson would mangle pretty much everyone on that list.

Tyson would mangle George Foreman wtf are you talking about srank? Said I was gonna stay OT oh well.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'll take issue with that list. Iron Mike at his peak was a monster, perhaps -IMO -the greatest boxer who ever lived... and he never even approached is full potential. After Cus D'Amato died Tyson wasn't even close to the same boxer. His training slacked and he stopped fighting seriously.

When he was at his best Tyson was one of the greats... suggestion otherwise is crazy. Peak Tyson would mangle pretty much everyone on that list.

yep.

tyson wasn't a boxer. tyson was a BEAST. and humans can't beat beasts.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'll take issue with that list. Iron Mike at his peak was a monster, perhaps -IMO -the greatest boxer who ever lived... and he never even approached is full potential. After Cus D'Amato died Tyson wasn't even close to the same boxer. His training slacked and he stopped fighting seriously.

When he was at his best Tyson was one of the greats... suggestion otherwise is crazy. Peak Tyson would mangle pretty much everyone on that list.


he was good one of the best heavy weights but there are many beyond him. He could beat some of them but thats means little, many of them are weight classes below him and would simply loses due to inferior size.

george foreman for one would eat tyson alive.

Deadline Junior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

george foreman for one would eat tyson alive.

Well within 3 rounds I guess or possibly 4.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Deadline
Tyson would mangle George Foreman wtf are you talking about srank? Said I was gonna stay OT oh well.

editI miss read what you said

Foreman would destroy tyson.