Originally posted by galactusischere
Tiamut was weakened in Black Celestial Arc when Galactus absorbed him. A) I challenge you to post scans of a Celestial taking it to someone as powerful as fully powered Tyrant. B) See A but this time apply to T&A.
The manner in which he was awakened had something to do with that. Apparently it isn't easy to undo the damage an entire Host of Celestials did to him to imprison him (which was supposedly to last forever).
I know that they are from different comics. Point is, Phoenix was Rachel and Rachel Phoenix.
But that's the thing. The issue where that was from was AFTER the Epic Necrom/Summers Phoenix duel. Rachel went into a coma and the Phoenix was healing her psyche. It was at that fight that the Phoenix was reunited with the essence Necrom stole from it all those centuries ago. And the Rachel/Necrom fight was after Excalibur 25.
She willingly submitted herself to Galactus because she knew she wouldn't have defeated Galactus in battle - Just look at how much damage they each have done in battle. Rachel in her fight with Necrom (it was a long drawn out all out going fight) only destroyed one solar system
Exactly right. This was shown on panel and Rachel stated that if they kept this up, the universe would go bye bye. And she wasn't exaggerating too. Necrom kept upping the odds. First moons, then igniting super giants, then destroying solar systems.
while Galactus and Tyrant's destroyed entire galaxies. Galactus isn't the type to really gloat you know?
This was never shown on panel, it's kinda like Sentry stalemating Galactus (stated but never shown).
I have said this before, Galactus was only tampered hunger-wise. His hunger was only turned insatiable. Tiamut did nothing to increase his power or absorbing capabilities.
This is just speculation. We don't know what Tiamut did to Galactus. It should also be noted this change to Galactus took place while Tiamut was in his imprisoned state (he was able to manipulate Galactus' physiology even while imprisoned).
They do get weak. See Black Celestial Arc.
Tiamut was recently freed (against the will of the Celestial Host who imprisoned him). Who knows what they managed to do him?
I'm not sure, but I think it happened in Thor 300 when he withstood Celestial blasts.
They weren't trying to kill him. He was beneath them. They swatted him away like they did the Unimind. They didn't kill the Unimind just dispersed it. They did pwn the Destroyer armor powered by Odin and all the Gods in Asgard though. And it should be noted that when Odin was creating the Destroyer armor all the other Skyfather's lent a portion of their power to it. So the Celestials toying with it like a cat with a mouse is even more impressive.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow udoinitwrong I already know Galactus jobs like hell. Telling me his low-end feats don't mean anything.Wait so you just want to compare Celestial high end feats to Galactus high end feats?
Which doesn't tell me much. The Beyonder was retconned, remember?Who said anything about the beyonder?
The Celestials have never met a power that decisively stalemated them (beyond a retconned Beyonder) or performed a feat that drained them of all power. This means their top power is a mystery; it doesn't mean they are more powerful than characters with better high-end feats and worse low-end feats. That scan shows Tiamat becoming an individual, and that's it.Cosmic fights usually don't end in draws... It's either you dominate them or they dominate you.... But Celestial have struggled before... Like the time they contained the Goblin Force.
But we look at both ends we don't just take high end feats and low ends.
On average top Celestial and Galactus are about equal thats how we judge battles.
Cosmic Cube beings insect and tanking Three Sky father< at their prime time> attacks is as good as any high end Galactus feat you can think of.
Originally posted by TheTyrantJust when i thought he couldn't get any worse 😆
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Originally posted by Slaanesh
no for what??i never seen Galactus show such mastery over time and space..well..i could be wrong thou cuz i don't read much about Galactus..
He just needs to think to shape reality, he's capable of seeing through time and being unaffected by time-shifts. (That is if I can recall those scans correctly)
Originally posted by SlaaneshEven the Surfer has done similar stuff.
no for what??i never seen Galactus show such mastery over time and space..well..i could be wrong thou cuz i don't read much about Galactus..
Like evolving an entire planet into billions of years.
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Originally posted by kgkg
Even the Surfer has done similar stuff.Like evolving an entire planet into billions of years.
evolving thing has nothing to do with warping time and space..it's completely different..Tiamut wasn't trying to evolve thing..he was warping earth into what it was several billion years ago..
Originally posted by Slaanesh🤨 It's the same thing is different word.
evolving thing has nothing to do with warping time and space..it's completely different..Tiamut wasn't trying to evolve thing..he was warping earth into what it was several billion years ago..
To go through time and space you are essentially warping space/time. You cannot evolve a planet into billions of years with warping space/time.
How do you think he achieve this than?
Originally posted by kgkg
Wait so you just want to compare Celestial high end feats to Galactus high end feats?
I don't want to use low-end Galactus feats that are obviously PIS.
Originally posted by kgkg Who said anything about the beyonder?
The Beyonder is the only cube being I recall meeting the Celestials, and that was before he was considered a cube being.
Originally posted by kgkg But Celestial have struggled before... Like the time they contained the Goblin Force.
Alternate universe.
Originally posted by kgkg On average top Celestial and Galactus are about equal thats how we judge battles.Cosmic Cube beings insect and tanking Three Sky father< at their prime time> attacks is as good as any high end Galactus feat you can think of.
And Galactus can't tank skyfather blasts? Show me Exitar teleporting a galaxy in an extremely weakened state. Or tanking blasts that destroy star systems. Has a Celestial fought anyone on the level of the In-betweener or Agamotto or the Sphinx?
Originally posted by kgkg
🤨 It's the same thing is different word.To go through time and space you are essentially warping space/time. You cannot evolve a planet into billions of years with warping space/time.
How do you think he achieve this than?
it's not the same thing..
yes you can..it's call reality warping..u can change reality however u like it..isn't warping time and space == reality warping..
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
I don't want to use low-end Galactus feats that are obviously PIS.
But it's not just a single instance. It's happened so many times that you got to believe the writers are trying to tell us Galactus really isn't all that powerful.
The Beyonder is the only cube being I recall meeting the Celestials, and that was before he was considered a cube being.
In a Fantastic Four Annual, both Kubik and Kosmos (the Beyonder + Molecule Man) meet and admit the unamed Celestial is "levels of power above their own" and then they were in fear for their lives because it was about to judge them. Both of them were as nothing to this no name Celestial and they are full Cube Beings.
Alternate universe.
Yup the "Mutant X" universe.
Has a Celestial fought anyone on the level of the In-betweener or Agamotto or the Sphinx?
Galactus was stalemating the Inbetweener in our Universe and was so occupied with him that they couldn't resist the pull of a nearby black hole. The Inbetweener stated that now they were about to approach the place where he was at the height of his power, the black hole (the space inbetween universes). Galactus was saved when the Surfer/Nova/FF sucked them through the black hole and allowed Order and Chaos to deal with the Inbetweener.
The Agamotto fight was impressive but they later admitted that they aren't at their full potential unless they form the Vishanti.
Sphinx, really?
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow I don't want to use low-end Galactus feats that are obviously PIS.Neither do I but we can't ignore all of his showing because fans don't like it.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow The Beyonder is the only cube being I recall meeting the Celestials, and that was before he was considered a cube being.Kubik was talking about the Celestial that's what I'm referring to here. He said that Cube beings are like nothing when compared to the Celestials.
The same Cube beings who wrapped an entire Universe , the same cube beings like postretcon Beyonder who was a threat to the entire Multi-Verse when he was battling Molecule Man.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow And Galactus can't tank skyfather blasts? Show me Exitar teleporting a galaxy in an extremely weakened state. Or tanking blasts that destroy star systems. Has a Celestial fought anyone on the level of the In-betweener or Agamotto or the Sphinx?When has Galactus tanked Skyfather level attacks without ease. Skyfather attacks have destroyed Galaxies , have shook the Multiverse.
Originally posted by SlaaneshReality warping > Space/Time warping. So I don't know what your getting at.
it's not the same thing..yes you can..it's call reality warping..u can change reality however u like it..isn't warping time and space == reality warping..
So the lowest of a feat it could be is Space/Time warping.
Originally posted by SlaaneshYou were saying space/time warping at the beginning. But I can't remember did it says Tiamut was reality warping the earth because that would make it a much better feat.
so..i'm gonna say what Tiamut did was reality warping..Galactus never did anything like that rite??
I don't see why what Tiamut did is beyond Galactus's power.
Originally posted by kgkg
You were saying space/time warping at the beginning. But I can't remember did it says Tiamut was reality warping the earth because that would make it a much better feat.I don't see why what Tiamut did is beyond Galactus's power.
i said space/time because i thought it was the same thing as reality warping..i'm not sure also of what Tiamut did..i just said it was reality warping cuz u said it was better than space/time warping 😛
i'm not saying Galactus can't do that..i was just showing that Celestial has feat of reality warping that is better than Galactus..
Originally posted by Slaaneshohh ok 😄
i said space/time because i thought it was the same thing as reality warping..i'm not sure also of what Tiamut did..i just said it was reality warping cuz u said it was better than space/time warping 😛i'm not saying Galactus can't do that..i was just showing that Celestial has feat of reality warping that is better than Galactus..
Galactus could nullify Exitar and every single member of the 4th host with a single attack; hell he could annihilate the entire universe with a single attack (which includes Eternity and every single Abstract, Celestial, Cube Being, Elder God, and Skyfather inside it)...
The nullifier is an extension of Galactus's power people...please try and remember that.
If we are considering the "VERY BEST" that each character can do in regards to what they could do to each other in combat then the rest of you guys argument is pointless as its clear that Galactus one-shots Exitar...
Non-BS'ing, non-jobbing, Galactus every single time with ease over Exitar; The big G "spite-stomps" him...
