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Hunter Abari, just ignore them...
I just keep forgetting that I keep asking for too much when I expect people to be a bit more open minded and mature about the opinion of others...especially after just making the statement without quoting anyone. I can care less, the self proclaimed mature individuals and adults are the most childish, pretentious adults I have ever encountered who just cannot process the fact that not everyone here wants to engage in a silly argument...Especially for the sake of one of the most ignorant arguments I have ever heard from someone who i've made the mistake to expect much out of. Another sad story, but hey...you win some, you lose some.
But in the end of the day, I get a laugh out of elitist RPers who not only prove their superiority complex further by criticizing post quality over progression, but the fact that they love to criticize character sheets...and so suddenly after how many RP's now?
This is the first time I see anyone do this...I guess I missed the memo. 🙄 If RPing has really turned to this direction, then I claim it to be dead all together.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaJust like how you are confusing fiction with general, realistic, logic. Which automatically dismisses your "logic" whereas a variation of powers is impossible. WHAT IS IMPOSSIBLE?. And that's another thing...a complete depending logic you want to believe in and not consider an overall fictional possibility. Do I have to list them for you?
You are confusing realism and logic.
- Crushing the earth with your bare hands is not only an impossibility, but the action alone makes entirely no sense without a fictional expalination...yes, such a feat can be explained through a fantasy. You'd be surprised.
- Learning Dark mage powers and possessing a form of elemental wrath is possible in a fictional aspects of fantasy.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaStatistical? How is there any realistic element to powers/abilities that can lead one to conclude a statistic probability? I think that is even more illogical than any character who possess a variation of power types.
Just because things are not realistic, does not mean they are excused to be illogical. I'm also saying it's not impossible, but it's statisticly unlikely if you make a human by nature.
I didn't see any problems disputed when humans like Krillin, Tien, and Chiaotzu all possessed immense overall attributes and abilities to manipulate their own ki energy. And they were all humans. That's a logical impossibility, but in a fictional world anything is possible. Name a human with three functioning eyes.
Please lead to these official "statistics" of powers/abilities in a fictional world? What are the possibilities and impossibilities in a fictional world? What fictional world? How about for every RP that we create, lets recreate the laws of physics in order to limit every character from possessing a variation of powers because it's impossible in this world.
Problem is, no one would consider that since it's a fictional world and until the day man can manipulate his/her own ki energy...you may have been onto something...but once he/she is also able to perform spell bound abilities...Then I was right. Until then, there is no real answer to such retarded logic.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia😆
What difference does presenting proof make? That's a fallacious distraction from the topic of discussion, since it does not at all strengthen the favored side of the argument. Just because something can not be proven, does not mean it can not be. (Religion anyone?)
Oh, uh, I don't know...Presenting proof will actually...well...Prove me wrong. 😆 Isn't this an argument you are picking with me, yet you cannot even prove anything? XD
This entire part is an excuse from any real explanation as I can tell by the obvious stalling of the point. As I kept anticipating for it, you just went for the opportunity to accuse me of using a fallacy when it was totally a standard question. I did not question anyone, it was more of a point that I rather question than state.
I agree with that term however in a case of religion with "faith", but with fictional science and fictional dimensions with no real answers to the laws of science and probability, the use fails miserably.
Next.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaSee, this statement has been nagging me like a gnawing dog, it's ignorant point just shakes my head in total bewilderment. Because throughout the entire rant, I have yet to get a link to any official science/phyisics book of a fictional world.
What I'm saying is that it's illogical, not that it's impossible. Just because it's possible however, doesn't mean that it's logical. And to me, logic is a key ingredient in any roleplay.
It's illogical to you because you want it to be for your own satisfaction. You obviously do not believe a word you are saying. Know why I say that? Because nothing you said there made any sense at all and you know it.
Truth: It all depends entirely on the RP or the limitations a character can possess depending on it's stature/bio/etc. You cannot claim something impossible to be illogical in a realistic sense. And you are doing so upon a fictional CONCEPT. Powers/abilities are illogical in a non fictional sense anyways, so us as NON FICTIONAL people, should not even have the answers to this at all...Especially yourself. obviously.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia"Logic in Fantasy."I am of course speaking from a fantasy perspective and not based on real life. Just because something is fictional, does not mean it is excused to deviate from logic.
I rest my case.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaNo he, just like most other RPers following the obvious, are sick of false illusions you love to throw in for your own sake and limiting our fun from RPing in a sense of Fantasy...you know...a form of fantasy where ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
Is this some kind of competition to you? If so, you should lighten up.
Where beings can acquire logically impossible physical traits
Where beings are able to stand the earth's atmosphere
Etc.
And I don't mean it literally, but in a sense of ability. There is no limitation to what you can do. Hence why there are limits to keep pain inflicting characters from god modding. A human with some alterations can possibly penetrate the earth's atmosphere through an explanation...logically, in a realistic perspective, it's impossible and millions of steps ahead of mankind for any human to accomplish such a feat.
But for a human to still do so with fictional technology is possible no matter what....because that's just how it is. It's fantasy...Beyond our imaginations...This is our imaginations at work here.
Welcome to the program.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaIn other words, you'll be right no matter what because your self proclaimed knowledge, wisdom, prestige will get your point through no matter how idiotic it is? Well, I guess i'm doing the same things as you (benefiting others), only that I was only commenting on both cases from my point of view where I think that it's all pointless and ridiculous overall. Because I FEEL that I have found the answers to fictional probability and science. Therefore, I possess the higher ground in all RPing and all things should go my way. 🙄
If you don't want to discuss a topic, don't reply to it. Just because I disagree, doesn't mean I disagree for the sake of it. I feel I have experience, wisdom and knowledge enough to involve myself in a conversation on this matter and I feel that maybe someone will benefit from reading it and get perspective of things.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaYou just admitted your angst to be superior over other RPers in order to have things your way. So it's basically the same thing you denied to me. Especially the way you sound as if anyone who has not converted themselves to the same ideas as you, they are below your standards of understanding in fantasy and the arts of pseudo physics.
I don't do this for personal satisfaction, even though I enjoy talking about it, or because I feel the need to tower someone.
I involve myself in the topic because I have a genuine interest in it and because I am hoping that someone not adept in the matter might read something I write and heed my words and evolve their roleplaying, or maybe I'll change someones mind.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaYes, yes...Your way is the logical way. We get it now. Too bad we don't know what's logical in a fictional world. 🙄
It's never too late to convert people to logic, that's my philosophy. Sure, it's fiction, you're allowed to make things that doesn't make sense. That doesn't mean you must, and that's why I'm writing on all of this. I feel I should give my side of a coin for the world to read.
Perhaps there's someone that has been doing this but haven't realized it, and reading my post makes them think.
We are not creating characters because we "must not make sense", but the fact that nothing makes sense anyways in an ill-described environment of the RP. sorry to burst your bubble, but people are not going to bother themselves creating a character intended to follow a non existant limit. Especially if it means not being able to use variations of powers that can be very possible...
- Born with Cryokenisis and Pyrokenisis. (Traits proven from parents)
- 1000 year old subhuman with eternal physical youth
- Learns Dark mage powers for 200 years
- Is interested in evolving by learning another form of abilities including psych powers. which has been spent 400 years mastering.
- Cursed in the middle of his lifetime, able to manipulate the ki energy (The curse's possible concept are endless)
-A mutation process causes the man to acquire super human strength.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaAwwww, how cute. The little girl thinks she won an awwwgyooment...
That alone is a victory to me, and the only victory that can be won in an argument. There's no victor like the victor that walked away a little smarter.
You're straight up pathetic and I have lost all respect for you Q'anilla. I expected some more acceptance and open mindedness that could have satsfied both of us..not just me, but you too...how? Letting it all go without having to attack me with every fallacy in the book as you patronized my ideas and purposely missed the point at times. I'll be the more mature individual here...I'm not here to win at an argument over the internet...i'm here to tell it like it is and state the points I WANT TO MAKE BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T FOLLOW YOUR RULES, ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO LOGIC IN ANY OF THEM.
You can be the victor and run away...i'll stay and state my points as long as I want. I'm probably one of the few to actually catch your superiority complex with those snide remarks.
You want to RP your logical way and remain unhappy with how things are not going your way, then we don't need your snide attitude and "logic".
Get out. No one will stop you...especially myself.
If you want things to go your way, heeeeeeey, why wait? There is an uhosted RP thread for discussion like this below the permission thread...Want to suggest these "logical" ways of yours pass off as legit rules? We can take this discussion over there and not spam the thread to another RP. I'll be waiting.
Originally posted by EtnaShe just confused herself so I don't blame anyone. ^_^
You guys misinterpret Q' Anilia to easily...
Ok just to say this but um can we please stop the nonsense all of this is fictional like cartoons anime and some video games
Like sailor moon when Raye used a fire attack in a confine space in real life they would have died by suffocation but that didn't happen
remember this is all fiction so please on a serious note lets stop this useless bickering we don't need Ush to come here and close this down
Not saying this to start a fight but its the truth we don't needs mods to come here like the S.W.A.T team to break up this fight
Originally posted by Hitosu MorikoI have already made it official.
Ok just to say this but um can we please stop the nonsense all of this is fictional like cartoons anime and some video gamesLike sailor moon when Raye used a fire attack in a confine space in real life they would have died by suffocation but that didn't happen
remember this is all fiction so please on a serious note lets stop this useless bickering we don't need Ush to come here and close this down
Not saying this to start a fight but its the truth we don't needs mods to come here like the S.W.A.T team to break up this fight
If she would like to continue this argument, I asked her to take it to the unhosted rules/guidelines discussion to avoid spamming your thread with ALREADY nonsense. 🙄
You're fine. If anyone quotes anything I have said above, I will report them for egging on the discussion further after I have made my claim very clear.
Originally posted by JacopeX^^ Everything I wanted to say but those rwo couldnt get it through their ill-minded heads. 😂 Jacope to the rescue. Much love brotha. 😮💨 OK im done, dont report me please. o.o
Yes, yes...Your way is the logical way. We get it now. Too bad we don't know what's logical in a fictional world. 🙄We are not creating characters because we "must not make sense", but the fact that nothing makes sense anyways in an ill-described environment of the RP. sorry to burst your bubble, but people are not going to bother themselves creating a character intended to follow a non existant limit. Especially if it means not being able to use variations of powers that can be very possible...
- Born with Cryokenisis and Pyrokenisis. (Traits proven from parents)
- 1000 year old subhuman with eternal physical youth
- Learns Dark mage powers for 200 years
- Is interested in evolving by learning another form of abilities including psych powers. which has been spent 400 years mastering.
- Cursed in the middle of his lifetime, able to manipulate the ki energy (The curse's possible concept are endless)
-A mutation process causes the man to acquire super human strength.Awwww, how cute. The little girl thinks she won an awwwgyooment...
You're straight up pathetic and I have lost all respect for you Q'anilla. I expected some more acceptance and open mindedness that could have satsfied both of us..not just me, but you too...how? Letting it all go without having to attack me with every fallacy in the book as you patronized my ideas and purposely missed the point at times. I'll be the more mature individual here...I'm not here to win at an argument over the internet...i'm here to tell it like it is and state the points [b]I WANT TO MAKE BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T FOLLOW YOUR RULES, ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO LOGIC IN ANY OF THEM.
You can be the victor and run away...i'll stay and state my points as long as I want. I'm probably one of the few to actually catch your superiority complex with those snide remarks.
You want to RP your logical way and remain unhappy with how things are not going your way, then we don't need your snide attitude and "logic".
Get out. No one will stop you...especially myself.
If you want things to go your way, heeeeeeey, why wait? There is an uhosted RP thread for discussion like this below the permission thread...Want to suggest these "logical" ways of yours pass off as legit rules? We can take this discussion over there and not spam the thread to another RP. I'll be waiting.
She just confused herself so I don't blame anyone. ^_^ [/B]