Cross Genre Match #11: Dante vs Etrigan

Started by Creshosk11 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think he's being serious. At least I hope he isn't.
My guess is the tongue means he's not.

Originally posted by Existere
Nobody (at the moment) is arguing that punching a standing-still speedster is a clear demonstration of super-speed.

However, tagging Superman mid-flight clearly is:

Unless we're assuming that Superman was asinine enough to fly extremely slowly towards Etrigan, and then proceed to get punched to the moon.

So I'm gonna go ahead and venture that if he can do that, he can tag Dante.

On a side note, if Dante doesn't see his hellfire coming, and given that Etrigan's hellfire has vanquished demons with ease before, and given Superman issues, what's the argument that it won't affect Dante?

This isnt a speed feat. 😕

Both Etrigan and Superman were able to complete a sentence before Superman actually got close to him.

They were either talking at super speed... 😕 or Superman wasnt flying that fast to Etrigan at all.

Can you prove that Superman was using some type of speed during that attack?

Originally posted by carver9
This isnt a speed feat. 😕

Both Etrigan and Superman were able to complete a sentence before Superman actually got close to him.

They were either talking at super speed... 😕 or Superman wasnt flying that fast to Etrigan at all.

Can you prove that Superman was using some type of speed during that attack?

This argument has already been debunked. read the thread.

Originally posted by Creshosk
This argument has already been debunked. read the thread.

I read it and I couldnt find anyone debunking it. Your arguments are moot unless again, PROVE that Superman was moving fast during that flight span because from what I am seeing, Superman is flying to him talking and Etrigan had enough time to complete a sentence.

That isnt fast at all.

Originally posted by carver9
I read it and I couldnt find anyone debunking it. Your arguments are moot unless again, PROVE that Superman was moving fast during that flight span because from what I am seeing, Superman is flying to him talking and Etrigan had enough time to complete a sentence.

That isnt fast at all.

...This has to be one of the silliest stances I've ever seen. 😐

Originally posted by XanatosForever
...This has to be one of the silliest stances I've ever seen. 😐
Well it is carver. He likes to downplay Superman and then deny it.

Alot of the time he'll defend with a "backhanded compliment" or something.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
...This has to be one of the silliest stances I've ever seen. 😐

Not silliest, you all are really nitpicking right now trying to find a speed feat for Etrigan. The proof is on you all, prove that Superman was moving at tremendous speed during his blitz or leave it alone.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Well it is carver. He likes to downplay Superman and then deny it.

Alot of the time he'll defend with a "backhanded compliment" or something.

This has nothing to do with Superman, this has something to do with you proving that Superman was moving at any type of speed during that fight.

Again, how am I downplaying Superman when again I said he can beat ANY GL, Current Thor for a majority, Black Adam, hell, almost anyone that he is pitted against I tend to give him a majority (except a couple). I dont downplay him but I also dont consider him godly like a lot of you all do and use the "since Batman has tagged Superman, he has super speed" as a debate that Batman has fast reflexes. 😕

Originally posted by carver9
Not silliest, you all are really nitpicking right now trying to find a speed feat for Etrigan. The proof is on you all, prove that Superman was moving at tremendous speed during his blitz or leave it alone.
No, you're the one nitpicking. your argument has already been debunked. It doesn't matter if you think it hasn't, its already been addressed.

Originally posted by carver9
*superman hate*
Thanks for proving my point.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No, you're the one nitpicking. your argument has already been debunked. It doesn't matter if you think it hasn't, its already been addressed.

Ok, well with that said, Nightwing>>>Light speed. 😕

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/TheTitans20i.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/TheTitans20ii.jpg

and this is using your logic.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Thanks for proving my point.

No problem; I love your debating skills though.

😆

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, well with that said, Nightwing>>>Light speed. 😕

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/TheTitans20i.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/TheTitans20ii.jpg

and this is using your logic.

Strawmanning. Not unexpected it does seem your best attempt to debunk "others" logic.

All it shows is how little you truly understand that the others have said.

Originally posted by carver9
No problem; I love your debating skills though.

😆

Pity that (sarcasm noted) the feeling is not mutual. I hate your lack of debating ability.

It's annoying.

In all seriousness, given the level of scrutiny given to other characters in regards to their feats, I'm not willing to accept that incident as evidence that Etrigan has superspeed.

mmm

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
mmm

he

😆

Originally posted by Creshosk
Strawmanning. Not unexpected it does seem your best attempt to debunk "others" logic.

All it shows is how little you truly understand that the others have said.

Everything is strawmanning to you when it comes to proving your case wrong. Change up your arguments.

Like I said, that scan that I put up was>>>>the feat that you showed of Etrigan tagging Superman so with that said....

I'm gonna take the stance that Etrigan doesn't even need speed because he's got precognition and telepathy. I'll also theorize that Dante cannot hurt him because I still think the Savior punch isn't good enough to put him on Superman's level.

Doesn't Dante have weak durability... He is not surviving anything by Etrigan