Most overplayed weakness?

Originally posted by Uriel005
I'd say that Thor's been around long enough to learn martial arts but it's just not his thing. It's like a friend I've had since I was young. Learned a bunch of martial arts Tae Kwan Do, ju Jitsu, Jeet Kun Do but when it came down to the few fights he's been in he just out right brawls.(even when sober)

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
There is not, he's done very well with opponents who are skilled and have powers (Puma for example).

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Any trouble he has against main A star characters is a case of him simply jobbing for the story and holding back (either for weakness of the character and/or the sake of the fight)..

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
On the forum most MA's aren't getting even a split with him, he is faster and can wipe out most of them in a hit, if not incapacitate him.

I never said they would or even implied. I said they give him trouble which they do, but that does not mean they come closes to winning a majority hell or even a single win. Most MA's he dominate, and the highly skilled ones like DD for example would give spiderman problems. Not to say spiderman wouldent win the large majority if not almost everytime, but they will make him work hard for it. Given his abilities they should be much easier fights, but there vastly superior skill gives spiderman harder time.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spider-Man is skilled, and he is also experienced as well, much faster and with enhanced senses. He has his own unorthodox style as well.

also the much faster and enhanced senses part is debatable depending upon which individual you are talking about.

I have heard this unorthodox style many times, and to be honest it simply spiderman relying on his abilities (not to say thats a bad thing) and it really only seems to trick unskilled indivduals. People like Punisher for example have even talked about how spiderman telegraphs his movements. No 2nd tier and up has had any difficulty with spiderman style (not that spiderman isent better or, beats them just saying it never onces been refferences that it was becuases of his fighting style).

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Martial Arts does not determine fighting ability, fighting ability is not just martial arts. Characters like Thor don't know martial arts, but to say he isn't skilled is just silly.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
People on here making it look like that anybody with Karate classes would stomp him is a stretch.

Originally posted by Konton
She's had multiple on panel upgrades.

Yea. Like when she came back from being a goddess, she was stronger.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yes there is, yes he done well at points, but then tend to give him trouble. Also I should have clearified, I ment extremely skilled fighter. Puma meh at fighting, I not even sure he be 3rd tier. His skill are lacking and he done really nothing of notice. I argue even warpath is his superior.

excuses that all this is.

I never said they would or even implied. I said they give him trouble which they do, but that does not mean they come closes to winning a majority hell or even a single win. Most MA's he dominate, and the highly skilled ones like DD for example would give spiderman problems. Not to say spiderman wouldent win the large majority if not almost everytime, but they will make him work hard for it. Given his abilities they should be much easier fights, but there vastly superior skill gives spiderman harder time.

He is skilled and experienced, but nothing closes to MA/fighters I am speaking talking about.

also the much faster and enhanced senses part is debatable depending upon which individual you are talking about.

I have heard this unorthodox style many times, and to be honest it simply spiderman relying on his abilities (not to say thats a bad thing) and it really only seems to trick unskilled indivduals. People like Punisher for example have even talked about how spiderman telegraphs his movements. No 2nd tier and up has had any difficulty with spiderman style (not that spiderman isent better or, beats them just saying it never onces been refferences that it was becuases of his fighting style).

It part of fighting ability a large part. Techinically Thor knows asguardian MA. Pretty much any fighting style is part of martial arts. People simply assume martial arts only has to do with the Asia which is wrong. When i am talking MA I mean fighting disciplines as a whole. Thor is skilled, though far cry from top tier however.

Speed, not debatable, again don't argue something that hasn't been proved. I have brought this up in a thread before, and only 2 or 3 people argue otherwise.

As a matter of fact bring actual "proof" of his fighting skill being an issue versus just saying it. Spider-Man holds back all of the time, that isn't an excuse. Not to mention that DD, Cap, and Logan are all his friends, is he going to go all out on them? Where are these characters even frequently using this "skill", the punches and kicks look actually a lot less comlex than what Spider-Man even uses, simple haymakers.

Show me where they consistently use this "skill" that I hear so much about instead of just throwing haymakers around and you might have a solid point. Those characters give him a workout, but if he is *really* serious like Aunt May got shot serious, they are mostly going down in a single hit.

Excuses are more like Wolverine being "immune" to pressure points, thunder claps, and people weaker than the Hulk when he has been shown to be affected by them numerous times.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
not a single person even hinted this.

Bizarro being dumb

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They aren't excuses, they are simply fact and common sense, the world's best fighter isn't beating the world's largest elephant. There is a difference between fighting efficiency and proficiency. The one who wins the fight is the better fighter. And no Martial Arts is *not* the only way to fight, please don't argue with me on this. It is a more modernized tool to make bodily movements more effective, something that Spider-Man has naturally. Martial Arts is a lot more broad than you realize.

Speed, not debatable, again don't argue something that hasn't been proved. I have brought this up in a thread before, and only 2 or 3 people argue otherwise.

As a matter of fact bring actual "proof" of his fighting skill being an issue versus just saying it. Spider-Man holds back all of the time, that isn't an excuse. Not to mention that DD, Cap, and Logan are all his friends, is he going to go all out on them? Where are these characters even frequently using this "skill", the punches and kicks look actually a lot less comlex than what Spider-Man even uses, simple haymakers.

Show me where they consistently use this "skill" that I hear so much about instead of just throwing haymakers around and you might have a solid point. Those characters give him a workout, but if he is *really* serious like Aunt May got shot serious, they are mostly going down in a single hit.

Excuses are more like Wolverine being "immune" to pressure points, thunder claps, and people weaker than the Hulk when he has been shown to be affected by them numerous times.

The fact you still believe spiderman is much faster then wolverine, capt, IF, shang-chi, elektra ect. says it all.

PS, simply becuase I could not help myself and want to clarify it before I got a bunch of morons trying to uses this in a versus debate.

numerous times is laughable, he was effected onces by pressure points and the guy landed several killing ones many of which did nothing, but after awhile the poison over took him (yea he was poison prior to the fight). It was the reason given for why they even worked in the first place. Asside from that, the most they have done is annoy him (Fact). As for the Thunder clap, the sonic ability of it has only worked once and he still recovered fast enough to dodge hulks attack. Asside from that it has done nothing to him and has been of not no hindrances (Fact).

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I am not gunna bother, you think what you want, wont matter what I say.

The fact you still believe spiderman is much faster then wolverine, capt, IF, shang-chi, elektra ect. says it all.

been shown to you numerous times, you simply right it off as pis every time. Hell in your very post you already try and right off capt feat. it pointless debating with you, you refuses to acknowledge anything dispite the fact it shown on pannel.

Originally posted by h1a8
His superior strength and lighter body mathematically provides him with far greater acceleration

Yes, because this is a math forum.

343 x 12 ,3 *^*&^98 = 332454 - 2 = battlehammer is right and H1 is full of shit again.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
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Originally posted by The Nuul
Yes, because this is a math forum.

Oh and this is comics, who the fck cares about using real life physics for comics.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Oh and this is comics, who the fck cares about real life physics in a comic.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Oh and this is comics, who the fck cares about using real life physics for comics.

Because real life would not allow for someone to be biten by a radioactive spider to gain powers, they simply die lol. So why the hell would someone think that applying real world physics would work. In a world that defies physics on a constant basis.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Well we can sometimes, to a degree, use them. Maybe to explain certain powers or stuff like that, or how powerful an attack must have been. But the fun stops when you explain a whole matchup in a formula...

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Well we can sometimes, to a degree, use them. Maybe to explain certain powers or stuff like that, or how powerful an attack must have been. But the fun stops when you explain a whole matchup in a formula...

No, its comic. That shit doesnt work and has no need for stuff like that. Comics and KMC are fun, it shouldnt be a math test or like looking like school.

Anyways this is causing spam.

Originally posted by The Nuul
No, its comic. That shit doesnt work and has no need for stuff like that.

I'm not talking about h1a8 physics here.

Originally posted by The Nuul
No, its comic. That shit doesnt work and has no need for stuff like that.

But the way H1a8 uses "science" is almost always wrong.