Thor Vs. Firelord and Air-Walker

Originally posted by Black bolt z
duroll

You asked for a tactic I gave one.

Neither do I.but the way you said he did it before he can do it again.

It required a sneaky little move. He placed his Cosmic Wings over Thor's face, causing Thor to let go instinctively and reach for his face from what I saw.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No but they could keep him off balance.Its like when the avengers tried to beat the beyonder.The plan was to keep him from thinking so he couldn't do anything.Just keep him off balance and keep pounding him

Doesn't sound too different from what Norrin and Warlock tried. It didn't turn out well for them by the way.

You can only keep an opponent like Thor off balance for so long. It would be extremely easy for him to unleash a roar of energy or lightning to stop their assault. Which is likely his go tactic if they resort to a hit and run scenario, or something similar to which you mentioned.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I don't know if this is mechanical or real air walker.I'll ask again.

Would it make any difference?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And I know.

To me it looked like no one won.And no one really had an advantage.

Yes he will.Just not as much.And that will be his downfall.

My main point is that FireLord is likely not going to be able to put this Thor down by simply blasting him.

I don't think current Thor would be reduced to a raging animal.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
To me it doesn't sound like it would be much different.I mean firelord faithfully served his master.

Norrin is holding back too when he fights thor.And either firelord or air walker alone would lose to thor but together they can beat him.

With a character like FireLord, I think going for the kill due to having a close or personal emotional involvement would make him a bit more powerful than if he was going for the kill simply due to orders.

IRCC, Loki was manipulating him, forcing him to fight and so on even though Norrin didn't truly want to. Which would lead me to believe there wasn't much -or even any- holding back in terms of how much power Norrin can unleash.

During Blood and Thunder, Thor took multiple shots from Norrin -this was after Norrin stated he was cutting loose- and it didn't do shit.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
How exactly was thor holding back?To me it looked like he fights like he normally does.

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Would you care to point out to me in which comic Thor actively tries to run away from his opponent and so on without extenuating circumstances.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Would you care to point out to me in which comic Thor actively tries to run away from his opponent and so on without extenuating circumstances.

Originally posted by Starscream M
he ran away to live with humans because he didn't want the burden of being a god

Where? And that doesn't mean he'd run away if he was in a fight. Completely out of Thor's nature.

You better not be talking about his origin story.

Originally posted by Starscream M
he ran away to live with humans because he didn't want the burden of being a god

team easily

Originally posted by Slaanesh
team easily

LOL...

Why am I not surprised by the complexity and thoughtfulness of Slaanesh's reply...

Question Slaanesh; if Thor can decisively beat Surfer and Warlock (and would you agree that Surfer and Warlock>>Firelord and Air-Walker?) what makes you think that the team "easily" beats Thor?

Do you have a rational justification for your belief or are you talking out of your a**?

Sorry it took me so long to reply. To answer Black Bolt Z's questions, Air-Walker is indeed the mechanical one here. As for Thor, he just saw Firelord jam his fire-staff into Sif's back. What do you think?

As it is, I agree with RageofOlympus. Thor is still going to fight reasonably well, not like a mindless brute.

Originally posted by Stoic
Firelord is a wuss, he couldn't fight his way out of a sandwich eating contest.

Anyway, I given the circumstances I could see this going the way of the B & T fight where he was beating up Drax, Maxam, Warlock, and Surfer. I wouldn't write off Firestorm easily but he does have a history of being second banana to Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Sorry it took me so long to reply. To answer Black Bolt Z's questions, Air-Walker is indeed the mechanical one here. As for Thor, he just saw Firelord jam his fire-staff into Sif's back. What do you think?

As it is, I agree with RageofOlympus. Thor is still going to fight reasonably well, not like a mindless brute.

I might have to reconsider my side.Firelord and AW can still give a helluva fight but now I don't know...

so @Rage i'll concede...for now biscuits

Originally posted by basilisk
I wonder if anyone, anywhere in the whole of history, has ever had to fight their way out of a sandwich eating contest?

Anyway, I given the circumstances I could see this going the way of the B & T fight where he was beating up Drax, Maxam, Warlock, and Surfer. I wouldn't write off Firestorm easily but he does have a history of being second banana to Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
LOL...

Why am I not surprised by the complexity and thoughtfulness of Slaanesh's reply...

Question Slaanesh; if Thor can decisively beat Surfer and Warlock (and would you agree that Surfer and Warlock>>Firelord and Air-Walker?) what makes you think that the team "easily" beats Thor?

Do you have a rational justification for your belief or are you talking out of your a**?

i'm talking out of my ass..

oh and..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
team easily

Thor had bested Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock in Blood and Thunder, and these two would rape FL and AW. Thor will literally murder them they will be a blood stain on the grounds of Asgard.

I like the Darkone. He seems to really know his stuff.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
so @Rage i'll concede...for now biscuits

What is this, like the third time?

You'd be better off just agreeing with me from the get go.

ha-som

Same could be said about you 😍

bashful

Team takes it. Thor would take the majority over either solo, but both of them have given him far too tough a fight for me to buy his beating both of them other than the occasional fluke.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Team takes it. Thor would take the majority over either solo, but both of them have given him far too tough a fight for me to buy his beating both of them barring the occasional fluke.

Thors mental state would be much different given the senario put forth by the OP than in either of Thor's encounters in the past with these guys; this Thor would be out to kill Firelord and utterly destroy Airwalker...

Blood and Thunder showed what a non-holding back Thor is capable of; if he could beat Warlock and Surfer to the point that they had to flee for their lives, then he kills these two inferior opponents...especially since Firelord kills Sif before his very eyes and the fact that Asgard is under direct threat of destruction.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thors mental state would be much different given the senario put forth by the OP than in either of Thor's encounters in the past with these guys; this Thor would be out to kill Firelord and utterly destroy Airwalker...

Blood and Thunder showed what a non-holding back Thor is capable of; if he could beat Warlock and Surfer to the point that they had to flee for their lives, then he kills these two inferior opponents...especially since Firelord kills Sif before his very eyes and the fact that Asgard is under direct threat of destruction.

Blood and Thunder was one arc out of the characters entire career, and nearly everyone agree that there was an amp involved. Given Firelord's ability to match Thor's energy output and Airwalker's ability to keep and wield Thor's hammer against him, Thor has no logical way of winning this fight. Hell if Gabriel can get his hands on Thor's hammer he can just hang back while Firelord blasts the shit out of a flightless Thor.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Blood and Thunder was one arc out of the characters entire career, and nearly everyone agree that there was an amp involved.

The reason Air-Walker is so cold-blooded is becuase this is the mechanical version. As I recall, Thor one-shotted the mechanical version. I don't see why he can't just do it again. Then it's a very pissed off Thor against Firelord. I'd say Thor wins.