Cross Genre Match #12: Rock Lee vs Karate Kid

Started by Galvaclaw16 pages
Originally posted by carver9
I dont think that was the only time they fought and look at his fight with Equus... Equus almost killed him in the second encounter.

The second time was in brave and the bold with the Earth Prime era Karate kid. Different guy. Karate kid was dying when he fought Equus. Who at the time of the second fight could tank blows from Supergirl.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I think this tactic of trying to frame the argument in the vein of only combat feats against fellow martial artists is a good ploy on the Rock Lee side.

I still don't think Lee wins based off of the evidence provided in his favor thus far, but at least it's redirecting the efforts of the Karate Kid camp.


AKA Moving the Goal Post Fallacy.

Originally posted by amnesia
So he do have superhuman reflexes and speed? If not I'm calling BS.

That's all i want TBH, i have no problem with KK beating Lee, but dodging light speed attacks is beyond lame.

Pre Crisis, he spun Superboy around so fast, he passed out from the inertia.

That would take a combination of strength and speed to accomplish.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
The second time was in brave and the bold with the Earth Prime era Karate kid. Different guy. Karate kid was dying when he fought Equus. Who at the time of the second fight could tank blows from Supergirl.

HHHMMM 😮 , I'm pretty sure that was the same guy and that he brought up his last fight against Equus and Equus also brought up their previous fight but you could be right.

Equus always had good showings against the Super people and he didnt tank Supergirl punches but Equus isnt that great of a character.

Originally posted by carver9
HHHMMM 😮 , I'm pretty sure that was the same guy and that he brought up his last fight against Equus and Equus also brought up their previous fight but you could be right.

Equus always had good showings against the Super people and he didnt tank Supergirl punches but Equus isnt that great of a character.

Nah, the one who fought Equss was the new Earth/pre-crisis one.

Equus is kind of a poor mans Pitt.

Both are bio engineered humans made into butt ugly organic weapons, both have a healing factor, and replace standard claws with Wolverine style claws..

Originally posted by Omega Vision
AKA Moving the Goal Post Fallacy.

Turnabout is fairplay. Similar arguments were used against Carver in the debate about a certain character and his opposition (who shall remain nameless and not be discussed until Sunday).

I find it...

Interesting.

Originally posted by marwash22
[b]"Rock Lee isn't a top tier martial artist in his own universe"... this may quite possibly be the single dumbest thing anyone on KMC has ever written in regard to a character's skill. Rock Lee would annihilate damn near everyone in the Naruto-verse in h2h if you make all things equal and take away the other peoples special abilities (kekkei genkai, genjustu, ninjustu, etc).

Again, show me KK fighting anyone who is both a martial artist and has meta-powers like Lee. [/B]

Black Dragon and Black Mace are more skilled than Rock and have better stats. Plus League of super assassins are somewhat skilled as well.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Black Dragon and Black Mace are more skilled than Rock and have better stats. Plus League of super assassins are somewhat skilled as well.

What makes you think they are more skilled than Rock Lee? Going by showings of moves, Rock Lee is more skilled. I dont understand the reasoning behind your assumption. Didnt Gia state that Rock Lee is one of the most talented martial artist in the world?

Black Dragon knows almost every MA in the galaxy and Black Mace is skilled in EVERY weapon. Plus have the stats to go toe to toe with Superboy.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Black Dragon knows almost every MA in the galaxy and Black Mace is skilled in EVERY weapon. Plus have the stats to go toe to toe with Superboy.

Gamora and Champion knows every Martial arts in their universe but lets not even go there when it comes to showings.

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What have they done on panel to make you think they are above Lee?

Fight KK to a standstill???

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Fight KK to a standstill???

LOL... WOW

Isnt this about KK? Wolverine has dropped Gamora... Thing broke The Champions ribs and the list goes on.

uh, what?

Originally posted by carver9
LOL... WOW

Isnt this about KK? Wolverine has dropped Gamora... Thing broke The Champions ribs and the list goes on.

Didn't Champion lose to She-Hulk?

Also, Champ solidly beat Thing, only acknowledging Thing's spirit.

Originally posted by carver9
Thing broke The Champions ribs and the list goes on.

So? Champion laid him out and could have easily killed him. Only Ben's bravery and sheer cussedness managed to impress Champion enough that he declared Thing the victor.

"I could crush your bones and break your body, but I could never break your spirit."

Another Rock Lee video from Naruto movie...don't know if it's considered canon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ7URv9ubHk

A few more rock lee vidoeos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuJ1fi-YLRk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj90XNK8Y5Y

^ all that is not canon.

Originally posted by carver9
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WTF... they can slap him down because they are more powerful, not because they are more skilled. 😕

Take away their powers on both sides and Rock Lee would DESTROY them. Just because Rock Lee cant beat everyone in his universe does not mean he isnt top tier martial artist.

Batman cant beat everyone in his universe but he is top tier... Black Panther cant beat everyone in his universe but he is top tier. Wolverine cant beat everyone in his universe but he is top tier... Hope you get my point.


And those guys have the feats and are acknowledged as being top-tier. Lee doesn't have any of that in the Narutoverse.