Cross Genre Match #12: Rock Lee vs Karate Kid

Started by Bentley16 pages

This is nonesense, people are claiming Rock Lee has lots of skills and enhanced stats, yet they haven't provided anything but stats and physical prowess. Lee is fast, sure, but KK has faced faster, has he ever shown pressure points or tactical abilities to back this "skill" tag they are using on him? And don't say "he's a ninja" everybody in Naruto is one and several characters suck at fighting.

It was posted a few pages ago but: Rock Lee isn't even top tier in his own universe.

There is no indication of Rock Lee being a Master of Martial Arts.
Especially not to the point of being better then KK

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It was posted a few pages ago but: Rock Lee isn't even top tier in his own universe.

yea he is pretty low...

He is no martial artist genius. Rock Lee is just a hard worker.
He does lots of sit ups, pushups, etc...

Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
And those guys have the feats and are acknowledged as being top-tier. Lee doesn't have any of that in the Narutoverse.

Why doesnt he when his sesei stated that he is one of the best fighters in the world and the Naruto verse is filled with nothing but Martial artist.

😕

Originally posted by Etna
There is no indication of Rock Lee being a Master of Martial Arts.
Especially not to the point of being better then KK

yea he is pretty low...

He is no martial artist genius. Rock Lee is just a hard worker.
He does lots of sit ups, pushups, etc...

Why isnt he a fighting genious when again, his Sensei stated that he has trained himself to be one of the best fighters on his planet?

Stop downing the character.

Originally posted by Bentley
This is nonesense, people are claiming Rock Lee has lots of skills and enhanced stats, yet they haven't provided anything but stats and physical prowess. Lee is fast, sure, but KK has faced faster, has he ever shown pressure points or tactical abilities to back this "skill" tag they are using on him? And don't say "he's a ninja" everybody in Naruto is one and several characters suck at fighting.

Lee is good, but not Val good.

Originally posted by carver9
Why doesnt he when his sesei stated that he is one of the best fighters in the world and the Naruto verse is filled with nothing but Martial artist.

😕

Gai says lots of things, some in which he says is not true...
Gai has over exaggerating many things. He lacks common sense.
Try actually reading the manga and learning these characters instead of spouting nonsense

I dont even think Gai even said that btw... I believe Gai said more of the lines of "Rock Lee has the potential of being one of the best fighters in the world"
And even if he did say Rock lee is one the strongest. Its pretty damn obvious he isn't.

Originally posted by carver9
Why isnt he a fighting genious when again, his Sensei stated that he has trained himself to be one of the best fighters on his planet?

Stop downing the character.

Gai himself said it in the anime, that Lee is not a fighting genius. Gai said that Rock Lee is a 'hard working' genius.

I'm not "downing" the character. I love Rock Lee, and I think I like him even more then you since you can't accept the truth that Rock Lee is not very strong in his whole universe. More then Half the characters in that series is stronger then him because he has such a handicap.
A Handicap you don't seem to understand how bad it is.
Handicap being that Rock Lee can't use ninjutsu and genjutsu at all. Thats a pretty bad handicap, the worse handicap possible in the whole series.
If you can't accept that he is a low tier Naruto character because of his weakness and his lack of feats. Then you don't know Rock lee

You and Marwash have been over exaggerating Rock Lee, and have been giving him vague and unexplained statements about him.

You have been so desperate about it, that you got to the point of ignoring most of KK's feats. Which is sad and pathetic

Originally posted by Etna
Gai says lots of things, some in which he says is not true...
Gai has over exaggerating many things. He lacks common sense.
Try actually reading the manga and learning these characters instead of spouting nonsense

I dont even think Gai even said that btw... I believe Gai said more of the lines of "Rock Lee has the potential of being one of the best fighters in the world"
And even if he did say Rock lee is one the strongest. Its pretty damn obvious he isn't.

Gai himself said it in the anime, that Lee is not a fighting genius. Gai said that Rock Lee is a 'hard working' genius.

I'm not "downing" the character. I love Rock Lee, and I think I like him even more then you since you can't accept the truth that Rock Lee is not very strong in his whole universe. More then Half the characters in that series is stronger then him because he has such a handicap.
A Handicap you don't seem to understand how bad it is.
Handicap being that Rock Lee can't use ninjutsu and genjutsu at all. Thats a pretty bad handicap, the worse handicap possible in the whole series.
If you can't accept that he is a low tier Naruto character because of his weakness and his lack of feats. Then you don't know Rock lee

You and Marwash have been over exaggerating Rock Lee, and have been giving him vague and unexplained statements about him.

You have been so desperate about it, that you got to the point of ignoring most of KK's feats. Which is sad and pathetic

It's clear you don't read or understand the manga.

Originally posted by jltruth
It's clear you don't read or understand the manga.

What makes you say that? I feel I understand it pretty well 😛

And I do read it. I read 'almost' the whole thing twice

I don't know shit about naruto...

Originally posted by carver9
Why isnt he a fighting genious when again, his Sensei stated that he has trained himself to be one of the best fighters on his planet?

Stop downing the character.


That's no sign of genius in any way. If I had to describe his character with one word it would be "determined". He fails at everything else but training and fighting: he's socially awkward, somewhat slow mentally, and he has no skills with Ninjutsu whatsoever. He's just a stubborn guy who never gives up and pushes his body to new limits to meet his challenges Rocky Balboa style.

If prep-man says rock takes a few, Rock takes a few.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's no sign of genius in any way. If I had to describe his character with one word it would be "determined". He fails at everything else but training and fighting: he's socially awkward, somewhat slow mentally, and he has no skills with Ninjutsu whatsoever. He's just a stubborn guy who never gives up and pushes his body to new limits to meet his challenges Rocky Balboa style.

Again, this "in-universe" fighting skill doesn't say a lot because in the Narutoverse martial skill as we describe it has more to do with status than actual fighting ability. Does Lee has better moves than Minato? Can you prove that he has better moves than say, Sasuke without talking about his speed?

Originally posted by Bentley
This is nonesense, people are claiming Rock Lee has lots of skills and enhanced stats, yet they haven't provided anything but stats and physical prowess. Lee is fast, sure, but KK has faced faster, has he ever shown pressure points or tactical abilities to back this "skill" tag they are using on him? And don't say "he's a ninja" everybody in Naruto is one and several characters suck at fighting.

TBH, most of them suck at being ninjas, too. 😆

They're closer to Jedi than they are to RL Ninjas. The dumbest part is that Naruto-verse Ninjas have badges they wear as head bands (or armbands on occasion) that advertise their village of origin as if to say "here's where you can find me and deliver vengeance".

What kind of bullshit Ninja would do that?

I like Naruto the Manga, and a good amount of its characters

But I agree. They are not Ninjas

Wearing Bright orange jumpsuits is not ninja material.
Bright Pink long hair is not ninja material

And most of their special attacks get out of hand as well

Kishimoto ninjas, apparently. Loved how when back in the flashback where Hinata was being kidnapped, the Cloud ninja still wore his headband like a dumbass and the Cloud village still demanded the Byuakugan as if they didn't get busted.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
They're closer to Jedi than they are to RL Ninjas. The dumbest part is that Naruto-verse Ninjas have badges they wear as head bands (or armbands on occasion) that advertise their village of origin as if to say "here's where you can find me and deliver vengeance".

What kind of bullshit Ninja would do that?

Ninjas where nothing compared to samurais. History seems to forget this.

Originally posted by amnesia
Ninjas where nothing compared to samurais. History seems to forget this.

If a Ninja ever had to fight with a Samurai then chances were the Ninja had failed his job.
YouTube video

are we really calling out unrealistic flaws? 😬