Cross Genre Match #13: Wonder Woman vs Bleach

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In the first episode of Bleach a Hollow smashed the side of a building off.
Hollows can physically touch things.

The problem, I think, is the fact that Bleachverse isn't consistent with how souls interact with the physical world. There are times where they can pass through solid objects, but then very next moment they're destroying the pavement. It makes it very hard to gauge.

naw

no, it really doesn't make it difficult to gauge, not at all. I guess I'm the only person familiar with ghost-lore.

I'm familiar with ghost-lore, and Kubo does a real nice job of chewing it up and spitting out its anus. Bleach souls are not the same as classical ghosts.

And those are some of the many reasons why the author to Bleach is crap.

Even if shinigamis/hallows can't be touched, don't tell me we would give the Bleach side a stomp in their favor because of something like that.

Diana's all magicy anyway. Her axe has killed a god, her lasso ensared living fiction, her eyes are those of Athena herself.

If there's one person who won't have a problem with their ghosty nature, it's Diana.

Originally posted by marwash22
you are correct.

This is why i ask has Wonder Woman ever faced someone who could pump out spiritual force. It's likely she wouldn't be able to handle the stress being put on her spirit/body.

She's ignored life force draining attacks from Nekron, and her soul is tied to her lasso and can even travel through it. It is in many respects, not remotely a remotely normal soul.

I doubt spiritual pressure'll do jack to her.

With CIS on Wonder 7 or 8/10

With CIS off Bleach 6/10

Scratch that, with CIS on WW sweeps 10/10 due to collective stupidity of the Bleach team minus Ichigo and Byak
Hell Maryuri alone ends up killing 3-4 members off the bleach team. Plus the overall friction between the to groups Aizen/Arrancar w/ Ichigo/Shinigami makes it inherently impossible for the two groups to co-exist and work together towards one common goal

^ He's right... Marwash you picked a bad a team with CIS on

Originally posted by Shancus
Scratch that, with CIS on WW sweeps 10/10 due to collective stupidity of the Bleach team minus Ichigo and Byak
Hell Maryuri alone ends up killing 3-4 members off the bleach team. Plus the overall friction between the to groups Aizen/Arrancar w/ Ichigo/Shinigami makes it inherently impossible for the two groups to co-exist and work together towards one common goal

mmm Reed Richards and Dr. Doom makes the perfect team.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't it essentially an unwritten rule that teammates in these hypothetical scenarios will cooperate to achieve victory in spite of their relationships/characterization within the plot of their medium? If not some characters could never be used on teams because they're, well, completely untrustworthy and back stabbing a**holes.

Aizen doesn't look gay anymore 👆

dude, throw a spoiler tag on that thing for the peeps who aren't current on Bleach. Also, its stretching out the page sneer

Originally posted by illadelph12
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't it essentially an unwritten rule that teammates in these hypothetical scenarios will cooperate to achieve victory in spite of their relationships/characterization within the plot of their medium? If not some characters could never be used on teams because they're, well, completely untrustworthy and back stabbing a**holes.

I'm done with this thread; first people started mixing different aspects of Wonder Woman's mytho's to better suite their counter arguments and now people are trying to use that bullshit CIS logic. Okay sure, but if we're going to stick by the rules, we need to use current Wonder Woman... and as i understand that chick can't even fly and isn't nearly as strong as the classic version.

Nah, don't let them discourage you Marwash. You've gotta roll with the punches in the underdog position. It's not a lost cause, you just need to find an argument that stands, via logic, in spite of the vocal popular opinion. I don't know enough about Bleach to help, but I'm thinking there are avenues of attack that aren't being properly represented. Whether or not they'll actually defeat Wonder Woman can be determined after the fact. It's a matter of putting Bleach's best foot forward for comparison, and finding avenues of exploitation.

Nah, those wings are pretty damn gay. Looks like Kubo aped Sasuke's old CS2 hand-wings and made 'em into penises with mouths...

Originally posted by NemeBro
Souls in Bleach ALWAYS have tangible bodies.

This is shown when Chad, a normal human, albeit a very VERY strong one, was able to beat down a Hollow with nothing but a telephone pole.

Ichigo was also able to touch Rukia in like the first or second chapter.

Also, Hueco Mundo is not Hell, Hell is actually a different and separate place, first brought up when the Hollow Shrieker was killed.

Shinigami are very much tangible.


Chad is part Hollow. It described his powers and it stated that he was part Hollow and what normal human can beat down a hollow with a telephone pole. What normal human arms can transform and shoot out blast.

Can these Shinigami/Hollows become tangible at will, or only interact with other spirits and "sensitives"? If they can effect their environment it would seem that they can become tangible.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Can these Shinigami/Hollows become tangible at will, or only interact with other spirits and "sensitives"? If they can effect their environment it would seem that they can become tangible.
They can interact with the living world just fine. It would be like if a ghost existed IRL and moved a book across the room... they do not have corporeal bodies but they can still interact with RL objects. The best way i can explain it is by referencing the can moving scene in the movie "Ghost".

Except for occasions where the person is spiritually aware... a Shinigami/Hollow can stand right next to a living person and kick a rock, the person would only see the rock move and would have no clue as to why it did so.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Can these Shinigami/Hollows become tangible at will, or only interact with other spirits and "sensitives"? If they can effect their environment it would seem that they can become tangible.

Honestly if they weren't tangible 100% of the time and could become intangible at will then the Hollow that Chad beat up would have to have been rather stupid not to simply phase through Chad's punches and through the telephone pole. That sequence suggests they're invisible but still tangible. That or as I said before the Hollow was too dumb to remember he could go intangible rather than getting hit by the telephone pole.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Can these Shinigami/Hollows become tangible at will, or only interact with other spirits and "sensitives"? If they can effect their environment it would seem that they can become tangible.

As far as I know, Hollows and Shinigami both are physical, but cannot be detected without spiritual awareness. Its more like "they can sometimes become intangible" than "they can sometimes become tangible"