Originally posted by NemeBrono one claimed it attacked the soul.
Fun fact, reiatsu does not attack your soul.In fact, no character in the series has actually shown proper spiritual attacks.
Spirits in Bleach are physical.
It puts pressure on your body and the only way to combat it is to use your own spiritual pressure.
Originally posted by NemeBroNanao vs. Yama... he pumps his reiatsu out and she basically suffocates from the pressure.
When have we ever actually seen two people's spiritual pressures combat?
Ichigo vs. Zaraki... Zaraki lets Ichigo cut him, Zaraki's reiatsu was greater and he was just fine but Ichigo's hands got busted up.
there are probably more examples but i can't think of them atm.
Originally posted by NemeBroprove it.
It's a physical force, therefore it can be physically resisted.
WW could easily crack a planet with her strength just due to the kinetic energy she can accumulate by flying at near lightspeed, look up relativity. It also doesn't hurt that she's physically overwhelmed people who can move planets out of orbit (which actually takes more energy than destroying them).
Originally posted by marwash22
Nanao vs. Yama... he pumps his reiatsu out and she basically suffocates from the pressure.Ichigo vs. Zaraki... Zaraki lets Ichigo cut him, Zaraki's reiatsu was greater and he was just fine but Ichigo's hands got busted up.
there are probably more examples but i can't think of them atm.
prove it.
But it doesn't seem like it's related to physical durability. Zaraki has a little girl riding around on his back who doesn't succumb to his reiatsu. I suppose Yachiru in theory could be incredibly durable I guess, but I'm not really seeing it.
Originally posted by Omega VisionDoes it? It's not though really as far as I'm aware... :/
It sounds like telekinesis to me.
To further back up the point, the entire reason Arrancar are hard to cut, is not because they have naturally durable skin, it's because their reiatsu is so great that it creates a "barrier" or an extra layer of skin so to speak. the only way to get through that barrier is to have greater, more refined or condensed reiatsu.
Originally posted by Omega VisionWhen Ichigo first meets Zaraki, he had a thought of something like "it feels like im being cut all over my body"... physically, there was nothing wrong with Ichigo, it was just the feeling he got from being next to Zaraki's reiatsu.
Wouldn't you have to prove that it's a spiritual attack first?
Same thing happened to Nanao when Yama released his, she wasn't being hurt physically, her spiritual being was being pushed down on to the point she couldn't even catch her breath.
Originally posted by Omega VisionZaraki, with a casual swing of his sword cut a building in half without actually touching the building... When he fought Nnoitra, a swing with more power behind it did nothing but create a spark. The fact that Zaraki couldn't initially cut him is proof that it's not just about physical strength... you need a greater amount of reiatsu.
Or prove that it can actually harm someone of Diana's durability?
Originally posted by marwash22So she was physically being crushed from it then? 🙂
Nanao vs. Yama... he pumps his reiatsu out and she basically suffocates from the pressure.Ichigo vs. Zaraki... Zaraki lets Ichigo cut him, Zaraki's reiatsu was greater and he was just fine but Ichigo's hands got busted up.
there are probably more examples but i can't think of them atm.
prove it.
So he was physically unable to cut Zaraki and the force of Ichigo's swing being stopped immediately cut Ichigo's hands, physically? 🙂
Nah, you have to prove it is unable to be physically defended against, you made the claim.
Originally posted by marwash221. Hierro, you mean? So it creates a physical barrier that was better able to take physical attacks? That's a no-limits fallacy, Ichigo has of now technically has no reiatsu, he would crush any of the Espada.
To further back up the point, the entire reason Arrancar are hard to cut, is not because they have naturally durable skin, it's because their reiatsu is so great that it creates a "barrier" or an extra layer of skin so to speak. the only way to get through that barrier is to have greater, more refined or condensed reiatsu.When Ichigo first meets Zaraki, he had a thought of something like "it feels like im being cut all over my body"... physically, there was nothing wrong with Ichigo, it was just the feeling he got from being next to Zaraki's reiatsu.
Same thing happened to Nanao when Yama released his, she wasn't being hurt physically, her spiritual being was being pushed down on to the point she couldn't even catch her breath.
Zaraki, with a casual swing of his sword cut a building in half without actually touching the building... When he fought Nnoitra, a swing with more power behind it did nothing but create a spark. The fact that Zaraki couldn't initially cut him is proof that it's not just about physical strength... you need a greater amount of reiatsu.
2. So he physically felt that? Because it physically affected him?
3. She was being physically crushed and suffocated when Yamamoto flexed his pressure actually.
4. Clearly Nnoitra was just more durable than a building.
Originally posted by illadelph12They could very loosely be considered a form of ghost I guess.
Wait, what are these Bleach characters, and what is the basis of their powers? I recall someone referring to them as ghosts. Are they magical/supernatural in nature?
Souls go to Seireitei, from there those with spiritual power become Shinigami.
Espada are an advanced form of hollow, which are essentially corrupted souls.
Originally posted by illadelph12they are technically ghosts who can use dolls or dummies so that they are seen in the human world. Shinigami are Death (like the dude in the robe and has the scythe) hollow are evil spirits.
Wait, what are these Bleach characters, and what is the basis of their powers? I recall someone referring to them as ghosts. Are they magical/supernatural in nature?
but in fights, i guess we just treat them like regualr people with physical bodies.
Originally posted by King KandyThat's kind of sad considering I annihilated that idea and no one bothered to post a rebuttal...
In a discussion recently in the bleach thread, the general consensus was that this was the best speed feat the manga had to offer.http://www.bleachanime.org/manga/Bleach-Chapter-313/13.png.php
http://www.bleachanime.org/manga/Bleach-Chapter-313/14.png.php
http://www.bleachanime.org/manga/Bleach-Chapter-313/15.png.php
http://www.bleachanime.org/manga/Bleach-Chapter-313/16.png.phpDoesn't quite stack up.
This is what Wiki says:
Bleach (ブリーチ, Burīchi?, Romanized as BLEACH in Japan) is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Tite Kubo. Bleach follows the adventures of Ichigo Kurosaki after he obtains the powers of a Soul Reaper - a death personification similar to the Grim Reaper - from Rukia Kuchiki. His newfound powers force him to take on the duties of defending humans from evil spirits and guiding departed souls to the afterlife.
Could someone more knowledgeable and well read on Bleach explain? By that plot synopsis it looks like they're all some kind of poltergeists, and this Ichigo cat is a version of the Grim Reaper, so it would seemingly mean their abilities are all supernatural/spiritual (since they are spirits).
Originally posted by marwash22
they are technically ghosts who can use dolls or dummies so that they are seen in the human world. Shinigami are Death (like the dude in the robe and has the scythe) hollow are evil spirits.but in fights, i guess we just treat them like regualr people with physical bodies.
Ok, so they use a form of host body to interact with the physical world (in their own medium).
Their abilities are supernatural though, right?
Originally posted by illadelph12They don't actually need a host body to interact in the physical world. And a forum fight wouldn't put them in a gigai, I don't think.
Ok, so they use a form of host body to interact with the physical world (in their own medium).Their abilities are supernatural though, right?
Their abilities would be considered supernatural, imo.
Also, should clarify in a neutral battlefield what exactly that means for the Bleach characters, can they become intangible as they apparently can in-universe in the living world?
