Uncanny X-Force VS New Avengers

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
He doesn't need to hit Wolverine to hurt him.

Captain America has laid out Wolverine more than once. People below the Hulk and below Iron Fist have taken on Wolverine and escaped decapitation. A healing factor doesn't prevent a KO. I have yet to see Wolverine survive punches "100,000 times stronger" than the Iron Fist.

Unless you are talking about hurting his feelings, then yes, he needs to hit him.

Captain America dropped Wolverine after the entire X-Men put him through the meat grinder. If it makes you feel better than I will admit that Iron Fist could beat Wolverine after the entire X-Men put the boots to him...

World War Hulk had feats of strength in the Billions of tons. Wolverine took dozens of heads shots from him. Red Hulk one shoted the Watcher (among other feats of absurdity). Wolverine took several shots from him. Titanus one shoted the Hulk. Wolverine took three shots from him. And the list goes on and on and on and on and on. Iron Fist destablized a Helicarrier, and Wolverine's taken far worse.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Too many characters to count.

Wolverine would take the Iron Fist with a smile on his face and remind Danny how he's taken a dozen punches from a guy who held freaking tectonic plates together.... and Danny would realize that the moment before his punch connected Wolverine opened up his six back and he'll bleed out in under a minute.

Wolverine has taken worse than an Iron Fist, and he'll take worse again. Fact is that Logan can take Danny's best shot, but Danny can't take his. That simple. I know you love to cling to this delusional belief that for some unknown reason Wolverine will be completely unable to touch Danny... but come on. Pull your head out of your butt and think about what you are typing. Seriously.

Using only his high end showings while ignoring his mid to low end showings. Classic Logan fan strategy.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Unless you are talking about hurting his feelings, then yes, he needs to hit him.

Captain America dropped Wolverine after the entire X-Men put him through the meat grinder. If it makes you feel better than I will admit that Iron Fist could beat Wolverine after the entire X-Men put the boots to him...

World War Hulk had feats of strength in the Billions of tons. Wolverine took dozens of heads shots from him. Red Hulk one shoted the Watcher (among other feats of absurdity). Wolverine took several shots from him. Titanus one shoted the Hulk. Wolverine took three shots from him. And the list goes on and on and on and on and on. Iron Fist destablized a Helicarrier, and Wolverine's taken far worse.

He also recently was one-shotted by Wonder Man. So there is that.

Originally posted by dmills
Using only his high end showings while ignoring his mid to low end showings. Classic Logan fan strategy.

🙄

Get over your self. I'm using median showings for Wolverine's healing factor, while also using the absolute peak performances of the Iron Fist. If I decided to use high showings for Wolverine and the median showings of the Iron Fist, or median for both THIS WOULD BE EVEN MORE OF A NON-DISCUSSION! Wolverine takes class 100 shots in stride unless there are outside circumstances that have weakened his healing factor, he'll take the Iron Fist, and lay Danny out with his claws... no way around it.

Iron Fist would take those claws and shove them up Logans own ass.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Unless you are talking about hurting his feelings, then yes, he needs to hit him.

If you haven't read the Immortal Iron Fist then stop posting about Iron Fist and pretending he's the same guy that gets tired out from two Iron Fists.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Captain America dropped Wolverine after the entire X-Men put him through the meat grinder. If it makes you feel better than I will admit that Iron Fist could beat Wolverine after the entire X-Men put the boots to him...

You'll need to provide a roster of the X-Men who "put him through the meat grinder" before anyone takes that seriously. Wolverine and Cap have fought multiple times and they are evenly matched for the most part (slight advantage to Wolverine).

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
World War Hulk had feats of strength in the Billions of tons. Wolverine took dozens of heads shots from him. Red Hulk one shoted the Watcher (among other feats of absurdity). Wolverine took several shots from him. Titanus one shoted the Hulk. Wolverine took three shots from him. And the list goes on and on and on and on and on. Iron Fist destablized a Helicarrier, and Wolverine's taken far worse.

Yup, WWH was really using tectonic plate-moving power with those punches. I guess every top brick goes all out against Logan too. 🙄

Watchers aren't known for their durability.

Do you mean Tyrannus?

Well, big whatever to this whole thing. X-force wins.

Originally posted by 753
Well, big whatever to this whole thing. X-force wins.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
If you haven't read the Immortal Iron Fist then stop posting about Iron Fist and pretending he's the same guy that gets tired out from two Iron Fists.

You'll need to provide a roster of the X-Men who "put him through the meat grinder" before anyone takes that seriously. Wolverine and Cap have fought multiple times and they are evenly matched for the most part (slight advantage to Wolverine).

Yup, WWH was really using tectonic plate-moving power with those punches. I guess every top brick goes all out against Logan too. 🙄

Watchers aren't known for their durability.

Do you mean Tyrannus?

I've read it. What do you see him do during that time that makes you think he can beat Wolverine without touching him?

It was during EotS, it's the only time Cap has dropped Wolverine... everyone already knows what happened before that. Other than that: Cap fought animal mind were-wolf possessed Wolverine... that fight ended with him pinned. He fought crapped Wayverine... and that fight ended with Cap having a bloodclot in his leg that would have killed him if the fight progressed any further. He fought WW2 era Wayverine for a few panels until Bucky shot Wolverine through the heart, and fought him for three panels in the Cap Annual. Cap has not "laid Wolverine out more than once," he laid him out once... and he did that because Wolverine was A) mind controlled, B) missing part of his soul and C) the X-Men had just kicked the crap out of him.

No Hulk decided to hold back against Wolverine, I remember, WWH was all about restraint and holding back.... 🙄

He also put the boots to the Hulk and Thor... pick which ever Red Hulk feat you'd like.

No, I meant Titannus...

IF can ko Wolverine, it won't be easy but he certainly can.

Originally posted by Bentley
IF can ko Wolverine, it won't be easy but he certainly can.

He has the potentially to do it... it just isn't going to happen in a fight without Wolverine putting him down first.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He has the potentially to do it... it just isn't going to happen in a fight without Wolverine putting him down first.

It's no stomp in either way, IF needs to be on top on his game though.

i just dont see how avengers win when x force has tp like they do

When did Logan take several hits from Rulk? I only remember Ross throwing him.

Yeah, but they fought twice. There was one panel where Rulk romoved Lgan's skin from his face completely by punching him. Dont know how it ended though.

Ah, that series of "untold tales" by Aaron. Fun read.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He has the potentially to do it... it just isn't going to happen in a fight without Wolverine putting him down first.

Originally posted by dmills
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Wolverine has a far better ability to wistand IF attack then vice versa. Eeverything elses is pretty dam equal, he should come out on top more often then not.