Uncanny X-Force VS New Avengers

Started by Dum Dum Dugan5 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

No Hulk decided to hold back against Wolverine, I remember, WWH was all about restraint and holding back.... 🙄

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Not to mention WWH stated that they could fight all day and he did not have the time for it. If anything that would imply he was hitting Wolverine as ahrd as he can.

Originally posted by dmills
He also recently was one-shotted by Wonder Man. So there is that.

Scan?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No he actaully makes a good point.

Wolverine has a far better ability to wistand IF attack then vice versa. Eeverything elses is pretty dam equal, he should come out on top more often then not.

I was only half jesting until he began making the case that Logan could take multiple Iron fists and smile. That's beyond absurd.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I've read it. What do you see him do during that time that makes you think he can beat Wolverine without touching him?

I don't. In a straight-up non-bloodlusted fight I'd give an even split or a slight majority to Wolverine. In a bloodlusted fight I'd give the same odds. But I wouldn't say such a farfetched thing as Wolverine is going to literally one-shot him just because he has sharp claws. Even if you try to deny that and say you never literally made such a claim, that's basically what all your other comments point to.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It was during EotS, it's the only time Cap has dropped Wolverine... everyone already knows what happened before that. Other than that: Cap fought animal mind were-wolf possessed Wolverine... that fight ended with him pinned. He fought crapped Wayverine... and that fight ended with Cap having a bloodclot in his leg that would have killed him if the fight progressed any further. He fought WW2 era Wayverine for a few panels until Bucky shot Wolverine through the heart, and fought him for three panels in the Cap Annual. Cap has not "laid Wolverine out more than once," he laid him out once... and he did that because Wolverine was A) mind controlled, B) missing part of his soul and C) the X-Men had just kicked the crap out of him.

"Laid out" does not mean "defeat". I'm challenged your assertion that Iron Fist can't hurt Wolverine because the latter has tanked Class 100 shots due to his healing factor. Telling me the results of a battle doesn't say anything above the actual fight.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No Hulk decided to hold back against Wolverine, I remember, WWH was all about restraint and holding back.... 🙄

WWH wasn't exactly straining himself when he was slapping Wolverine around, unless you want to delude yourself into believing that WWH pushed himself to his limits to conk Wolverine.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He also put the boots to the Hulk and Thor... pick which ever Red Hulk feat you'd like.

I like the Grandmaster feat the best. Nonsensical and unexplained is a great combination.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No, I meant Titannus...

That Super-Soldier Skrull?

Originally posted by dmills
I was only half jesting until he began making the case that Logan could take multiple Iron fists and smile. That's beyond absurd.

depends on the level of the IF. His avaerage fist yes, but not his 100 class plus level fist. That of course could dropped wolverine and he sure would not be smiling.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
I don't. In a straight-up non-bloodlusted fight I'd give an even split or a slight majority to Wolverine. In a bloodlusted fight I'd give the same odds. But I wouldn't say such a farfetched thing as Wolverine is going to literally one-shot him just because he has sharp claws. Even if you try to deny that and say you never literally made such a claim, that's basically what all your other comments point to.

No that snot what he was saying at all. He was saying Wolveirne unlike IF has the potential to one shot here, not that he would. What he really refferring to is that one shot landed by Wolverine would become a big factor in a fight with IF. He would hurt hum badly, weaken him ect. While a IF to Wolverine will hurt for sure, but he will recover, IF does not have any such ability while in mid fight. I think you been taking his statements far to literal.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
WWH wasn't exactly straining himself when he was slapping Wolverine around, unless you want to delude yourself into believing that WWH pushed himself to his limits to conk Wolverine.

Hulk own statements allude to the fact he was hitting Wolverine full blast. He certainly was in no way holding back like your trying t pretend he was.

as for Titanus he from a marvel team up.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
depends on the level of the IF. His avaerage fist yes, but not his 100 class plus level fist. That of course could dropped wolverine and he sure would not be smiling.
Very reasonable position. I have no problem with that 👆

Fist pretty much solos.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Fist pretty much solos.

Iron Fist would be get his @ss handed to him from Psylocke

Originally posted by RyanAutumns
Iron Fist would be get his @ss handed to him from Psylocke

yes he would. she simply mind rape, or uses TK. She also an animal in melee as well.

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Uncanny X-Force all the way