Cross Genre Match #14: Kakashi vs Gorgon

Originally posted by Bentley
Wouldn't telepathy give the clones away?

and/or....

another thing, if gorgon actually does read the real kakashi, since kakashi has his sharingan open during fights, gorgon will be reading his thoughts that are being influenced by the sharingan. in essence gorgon will be reading thoughts and movements that are based on countering gorgon himself, being transmitted at the same speed of gorgon's movements, as you can see that will cause a bit of a chain reaction of events/thoughts.

so gorgon creates an infinite loop in his brain the moment he decide to use his telepathy on the real kakashi. his brain will short out in the first second or two, too bad for him kakashi's sharingan doesn't do the same.

I cant believe you all voted on this. At max, I would say Gorgon speed is around the speed of sound, Kakashi>>Gorgon.

This is a STOMP. Not even a fight.

Originally posted by Blair Wind

I figured Battlehammer (or whatever his name is now) might at least have an opinion.

Not much to say, Srank nailed it.

Originally posted by carver9
I cant believe you all voted on this. At max, I would say Gorgon speed is around the speed of sound, Kakashi>>Gorgon.

This is a STOMP. Not even a fight.

Speed of sound probably isn't all that different from Kakashi's speed.

So it'd be like a ninja with two useful jutsu (mind-reading and Stone Eyes), vs him with his.... thousand jutsu. Hm....

Originally posted by Q99
Speed of sound probably isn't all that different from Kakashi's speed.

So it'd be like a ninja with two useful jutsu (mind-reading and Stone Eyes), vs him with his.... thousand jutsu. Hm....

Sasuke in the forest of death was likely faster than sound, if he wasn't Sasuke during the Chuunin exam finals vs Gaara certainly was... and Kakashi is WAY superior to Chuunin exam Sasuke in every conceivable way. We've yet to see Kakashi go all out because he always ends up having to protect some lesser characters from dying every time he fights which opens himself up to getting beat up, but the Data books have him basically on par with Itachi in most areas (and even above him in stamina, which is one of Kakashi's weakest areas). If Kakashi is on par with Itachi as he is said to be in the data books (and I see no reason to believe he isn't - Itachi said Kakashi could beat Kisame, Kakashi's rival did beat Kisame, Kisame did better against Bee than Sasuke did... all of which would place Kakashi soundly above even current Sasuke), he is many times faster than the speed of sound.

Naruto speed is somewhat inconsistent. They take ages to travel places.

It's probably something akin to being capable of short bursts of really fast movement like Selene.

I think they just coast on neutral until they have to fight. I remember when the third was fighting Orichimaru they went on about how ninja fights were very brief and ninja burn through chakra reserves quickly...

but that was when the still vaguely resembled ninja, and not the lame ass combat wizards they are now.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Jack got beat down by a break dancing DJ. 😈

Kakashi wins by using the thousand years of pain technique

Kakashi Sensei.

Naruto is just on another level. Kakashi, ftw.

Gorgon FTW

Originally posted by psycho gundam
maybe, but then he will have to do something about a clone far faster than him that he can't mind scan on his ass.

and/or....

another thing, if gorgon actually does read the real kakashi, since kakashi has his sharingan open during fights, gorgon will be reading his thoughts that are being influenced by the sharingan. in essence gorgon will be reading thoughts and movements that are based on countering gorgon himself, being transmitted at the same speed of gorgon's movements, as you can see that will cause a bit of a chain reaction of events/thoughts.

so gorgon creates an infinite loop in his brain the moment he decide to use his telepathy on the real kakashi. his brain will short out in the first second or two, too bad for him kakashi's sharingan doesn't do the same.

I don't think that crazy loop interaction you described has ever happened nor anything ever suggested it could happen 😬

Gorgon takes a kunai to the face within the first 5 seconds of this match.

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't think that crazy loop interaction you described has ever happened nor anything ever suggested it could happen 😬

sharingan's staring at gorgon making kakashi able to perfectly imitate gorgon's physical actions as they are happening. gorgon uses his tp to read what kakashi is going to do at the same time so he can counteract it like mr. x does (and like batgirl).

the second gorgon tries something, the sharingan imitates it and then gorgon's mind recalibrates for it to counter, sharingan sends more info to kakashi's brain, gorgon reads that and his brain sends him different information, but the moment he tries to do something the sharingan will just copy him...which then sends more info back to gorgon...on and on a and on.

It still just boils down to 'they know what the other'll do.'

but gorgon can't act on it or he'll get flooded by visions or whatever, every time

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but gorgon can't act on it or he'll get flooded by visions or whatever, every time

Sure he can. Just because there's a 'hall of mirrors' effect where something's reflected repeatedly, doesn't mean he can't focus in on what Kakashi's actually going to do and ignore the excess.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Gorgon was able to react to Yo-Yo, but honestly Kakashi is just too fast. Even during the Gaiden when he was in his early teens, Kakshi was able to kill close to a dozen Kage Bunshin spread out over an area about the size of a foot ball field, all on different levels, seemingly at the same time... and that was before he got his Sharingan. Now, he is much faster than that, allegedly fast enough to cut through a lightning bolt with an ability that requires both hand seals and some limited charge times. He's too fast for Gorgon, and too fast for the Mandarin.

I thought Gorgon was supposed to be one of the best MAer's that Marvel has to offer.

Better than Wolvie right? Would Wolvie die against Kakashi as well?

Originally posted by Q99
Sure he can. Just because there's a 'hall of mirrors' effect where something's reflected repeatedly, doesn't mean he can't focus in on what Kakashi's actually going to do and ignore the excess.

see the problem?

kakashi is about precision, skillful battle tactics, and not wasting time/energy doing flashy or uneeded manuevers to defeat someone or protect a v.i.p. then you add the sharingan refining his actions so that they are all but designed to counter his opponent... there is nothing but actions that are perfect coming from kakashi's end.