Cross Genre Match #14: Kakashi vs Gorgon

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Would Wolvie die against Kakashi as well?

^ pretty sure that was a rhetorical question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_388877&v=QpRg_SuHXuM

^ 4:20 he starts using the sharingan to perfectly imitate his opponent with no lag.

i don't have that in manga form but it's virtually the same, i'll have to find the scans

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ pretty sure that was a rhetorical question

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Still, as much as I obviously think Kakashi wins, I thought the holy power of a healing factor would make some people think he could just tank.

Gundams video:
YouTube video

Originally posted by psycho gundam
[B]but kakashi's actions would be based on the actions/counteractions of gorgon.

see the problem?

Yes, and when they actually act it's still only going to be one action. Their brains are still processing the same number of thoughts.

Originally posted by Q99
Yes, and when they actually act it's still only going to be one action. Their brains are still processing the same number of thoughts.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
nope,

Yes, because my point is him having sharingan doesn't nullify telepathy, and it doesn't, it just evens the reading field a bit.

It's similar to two sharingan users facing, they don't get stuck in a loop or anything.

since kakashi's actions will always put him in a better position.

Gorgon will also be trying to take the best course of action available and he'll be doing it based on his knowledge of what actions Kakashi is actually going to take.

Kakashi will have the edge in actions carried out due to higher abilities, but he's still going to have to actually think of them first.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i don't have that in manga form but it's virtually the same, i'll have to find the scans

this?

Originally posted by Q99
Yes, because my point is him having sharingan doesn't nullify telepathy, and it doesn't, it just evens the reading field a bit.

It's similar to two sharingan users facing, they don't get stuck in a loop or anything.

Gorgon will also be trying to take the best course of action available and he'll be doing it based on his knowledge of what actions Kakashi is actually going to take.

Kakashi will have the edge in actions carried out due to higher abilities, but he's still going to have to actually think of them first.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but kakashi's actions aren't set, they are attuned to his opponent's actions and change accordingly at the same time.

So are Gorgon's but linked to the mind that acts before the chakra.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but kakashi's actions aren't set, they are attuned to his opponent's actions and change accordingly at the same time.

His actions aren't set until he decides what to do, and he still needs to decide before he acts. Sharingan gives him addition information, it does not alter how thoughts and actions work.

The same holds true for Gorgon.

gorgon lacks the speed to do anything about it, and then kakashi with his superior speed can change tactics matching (bare minimum) the speed of gorgon.

there is no disadvantage

sad that the only argument is if a mind loop is possible.

Originally posted by jalek moye
sad that the only argument is if a mind loop is possible.

there's also the infamous speed blitz option which would lead to various methods of victory including lighting Gorgon on fire, electrocuting him to death, impaling him, drowning him, etc.

Most certainly not before Gorgon takes off his shades, I mean, he also has super speed and Kakashi must reach him to deal his damage.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's not really the only argument. Among other things, Kakashi has a spacetime jutsu that essentially creates a miniature black hole.

Barring that move (which besides dodging like Deidara did is really not something you can heal from), Gorgon does have a healing factor doesnt he? He could potentially tank most of his other jutsu's......

Naw, he could just encase him in a water prison.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's not really the only argument. Among other things, Kakashi has a spacetime jutsu that essentially creates a miniature black hole.

I mean the only argument going on in the thread. since everyone seems to agree gorgon loses

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Barring that move (which besides dodging like Deidara did is really not something you can heal from), Gorgon does have a healing factor doesnt he? He could potentially tank most of his other jutsu's......

Naw, he could just encase him in a water prison.

To what degree does Gorgon have superspeed?

taking off shades = turning a shadow clone into stone. I can't remember a time where Kakashi entered a battle without using a clone of some sort almost immediately.

Also, HF doesn't allow you to tank attacks, just heal from them, something Kakashi wouldn't allow him to do... he has no problem going for the kill.