Silver Surfer vs Flash

Started by Tha C-Master7 pages

Flash still has that insane 13 trillion times lightspeed feat. 😄

is that the stupid nerd real life science tryin to explain his power and feat? 33

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Flash still has that insane 13 trillion times lightspeed feat. 😄

More than that, I think.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
More than that, I think.
When he rescued the city? It was roughly that.

so why is it he always talks about needing an extra boost to pass ftl?

its poor science and knowledge of characters..

he is seen doing that to show how fast he is it is not meant to be taken as a real world physics explanation..

hence, as fast as he runs he is unable to fight zoom on equal terms and needed to harness other speedsters speed to boost himself to Zooms lvl of time manipulation speed.

also their is the amazo fight where he commented at his lvl of speed himself.

i hate when ppl try to use real world science to add to a comic feat,.

Originally posted by King Castle
so why is it he always talks about needing an extra post to pass ftl?

its poor science and knowledge of characters..

he is seen doing that to show how fast he is it is not meant to be taken as a real world physics explanation..

hence, as fast as he runs he is unable to fight zoom on equal terms and needed to harness other speedsters speed to boost himself to Zooms lvl of time manipulation speed.

also their is the amazo fight where he commented at his lvl of speed himself.

i hate when ppl try to use real world science to add to a comic feat,.

Real world science? What the hell are you talking about, he said what he did and I simply posted what he said. He has done many multi-light speed feats. Regardless if it was intentional or not he still did it. Actions always beat words. If I pick up a 40lb weight and say it is 20 lbs, what matters more, what I said or what I actually did. Lol at Flash barely going more than light speed if that.

Zoom has a totally different paradoxial powerset altogether and he still needed to be amped to stand a chance. Oh and I was just saying that tongue and cheek, and furthermore comics do have grounding in the "real world" unless there are parts that simply don't apply. If a character needs air to breathe they won't be in space without some type of air support right?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Real world science? What the hell are you talking about, he said what he did and I simply posted what he said. He has done many multi-light speed feats. Regardless if it was intentional or not he still did it. Actions always beat words. If I pick up a 40lb weight and say it is 20 lbs, what matters more, what I said or what I actually did. Lol at Flash barely going more than light speed if that.

Zoom has a totally different powerset altogether and he still needed to be amped to stand a chance. Oh and I was just saying that tongue and cheek, and furthermore comics do have grounding in the "real world" unless there are parts that simply don't apply. If a character needs air to breathe they won't be in space without some type of air support right?

But the caption of the stroyline with teh nuclear bomb says he was just under lighstpeed. That's what the writer wanted, he just didnt know any better.

wish i still had that "scan" of batman with only half a space helmet.

Originally posted by 753
But the caption of the stroyline with teh nuclear bomb says he was just under lighstpeed. That's what the writer wanted, he just didnt know any better.
thats the same as a writer saying in an interview what he meant. that doesnt count. what counts is the feats shown on panel.

so i guess flash can now breath in space and get traction b/c it was what he did?

every time we use on panel for why A character can beat or hurt a B character ppl scream PIS!! to protect their character b/c we know powersets regardless of what is shown on panel..

do we think Cap is a 100+ or should be able to hurt hulk, thor or supes in a forum fight? of course not it is silly. we do try to draw the line on disbelieve in forum fights.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
thats the same as a writer saying in an interview what he meant. that doesnt count. what counts is the feats shown on panel.
Pretty much. If Flash did it, where is the argument at?

Not only that, but if he were only going "just under light speed" he wouldn't have rescued anybody.

Originally posted by King Castle
so i guess flash can now breath in space and get traction b/c it was what he did?

every time we use on panel for why A character can beat or hurt a B character ppl scream PIS!! to protect their character b/c we know powersets regardless of what is shown on panel..

do we think Cap is a 100+ or should be able to hurt hulk or supes in a forum fight? of course not it is silly. we do try the line on disbelieve in forum fights.

Which would matter more if this was a matchup in question, it is just an "effort" feat, like a strength feat, and it isn't even his fastest feat.

Can you post the scan of the trillions of times light speed pls? Can't find it in the respect thread....

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
thats the same as a writer saying in an interview what he meant. that doesnt count. what counts is the feats shown on panel.
It is not the same, the caption was on panel and it's part of the stroy. Ignoring actual story narration is different from ignoring what authors say in interviews.

Besides, arriving at the 13 trillion c figure requires an extrapolation that has nothing to do with the story and uses real world physics. The story itself says he didn't go beyond lightspeed to do that.

Originally posted by 753
It is not the same, the caption was on panel and it's part of the stroy. Ignoring actual story narration is different from ignoring what authors say in interviews.

Besides, arriving at the 13 trillion c figure requires an extrapolation that has nothing to do with the story and uses real world physics. The story itself says he didn't go beyond lightspeed to do that.

Because he wouldn't have rescued one person if he was.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Pretty much. If Flash did it, where is the argument at?

Not only that, but if he were only going "just under light speed" he wouldn't have rescued anybody. Which would matter more if this was a matchup in question, it is just an "effort" feat, like a strength feat, and it isn't even his fastest feat.

If he was doing it in the real world you mean? Yeah, then he wouldnt rescue anyone. In the confines of his fictional narrative 'just under lightspeed' is enough.

unless you are to assume that the dcverse uses insanely different science laws than our 'verse you really cant take the narration as true. what he did was just not possible at that speed

its the same as when ppl reach the end of the universe at light speed... which is his only known defined power... we know writers messed up or have poor science background b/c next page he is struggling to keep up with a laser beam at his fasted speed effort...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Flash still has that insane 13 trillion times lightspeed feat. 😄

Near lightspeed you mean, the exact wording during the feat makes it kinda unarguable... If the author says that the mountain weighs 100 tons then that's what it weighs regardless of the fact that a real mountain of the same relative size would weigh billions of tons.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
unless you are to assume that the dcverse uses insanely different science laws than our 'verse you really cant take the narration as true. what he did was just not possible at that speed
Unless I am to assume? It obviously does.

Originally posted by 753
If he was doing it in the real world you mean? Yeah, then he wouldnt rescue anyone. In the confines of his fictional narrative 'just under lightspeed' is enough.
No, if you simply divide the number he rescued by 13 trillion you wouldn't even have a whole number.