Cross Genre Match #15: FOXHOUND (MGS) vs Weapon X

Fantomax is Weapon 13, and I think adding more combatants to the WX side might unbalance things, unless we throw in Raiden for the Foxhounds too.

Adding in Wraith (who I admit to forgetting when I did the list) and Raiden seems reasonable.

Originally posted by Q99
Fantomax is Weapon 13, and I think adding more combatants to the WX side might unbalance things, unless we throw in Raiden for the Foxhounds too.

Adding in Wraith (who I admit to forgetting when I did the list) and Raiden seems reasonable.

also silverfox shouldent be on the team. She never did really anything it be next to impossiable to tell what level she was at, I not even sure she had powers.

I think 15 is too powerful. We're already getting off Weapon X a little with Fantomex, Ultimaton even more-so.

technically this should be weapon plus which covers everyone.

everything other then wolverine is all techincally not weapon x.

Most of the others did work for or were associated with the Weapon X program, they just weren't 'the' Weapon X.

If X-Force doesn't switch the controller ports their ****ed.

Raiden si pretty much a class 100 just by the way, if we use current versions.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
If X-Force doesn't switch the controller ports their ****ed.

Raiden si pretty much a class 100 just by the way, if we use current versions.

That wasn't a statement that Raiden solos or anything just wanted to throw it in as an info. Cause Omega Vision is absolutely unfamiliar with MGS.

Which members of Weapon X are likely to fall to Wolf's sniper fire?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That wasn't a statement that Raiden solos or anything just wanted to throw it in as an info. Cause Omega Vision is absolutely unfamiliar with MGS.

Just saying weapon 15 is a monster. Might even be unfair to have it in this fight.

Originally posted by Q99
Which members of Weapon X are likely to fall to Wolf's sniper fire?

Revolver Ocelot (As soon as he needs to reload)
Sniper Wolf (as soon as the X-Force is close enough)
Decoy Octopus (absolutely)

Cause the X-Force has to many massive HFs on their side.

EDIT: Maybe we should add the Beauty and the Beast Unit from MGS4? I was a bit under the wrong impression who's in this when I supported this thread.

whats the scenerio/land scape becuase it matters. Because with any type of covering no ones hitting fantomex and he gunna ambush them. Also Maverick/Agent Zero were vibranium suit and absorbs kenetic energy himself, bullet on gunan be pretty usesless on him.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
IDK but a lot of Fox Hound members are really useless here.

Revolver Ocelot (As soon as he needs to reload)
Sniper Wolf (as soon as the X-Force is close enough)
Decoy Octopus (absolutely)

Revolver can reload pretty fast, and Wolf'll be behind the others. Headshots at the least inconvenience most of the others.

Agreed on Octopus.

The Foxhound does have a lot more firepower; Vulcan Raven, Snake and his missile launchers, all that fun stuff. They do also have the only psychic around.

EDIT: Maybe we should add the Beauty and the Beast Unit from MGS4? I was a bit under the wrong impression who's in this when I supported this thread.

This thread seems to be just adding more people to each side. Let's leave out Weapon 15 and the B&BU and all that. Heck, let's even leave out Fantomex since he's with Weapon Plus but not Weapon X.

No point in inflating things, we'll have a small army on each side if we go that way (there's a lot more Weapon Plus people, not to mention the Cobras and Deadcell).

edit. to the maker, weapon x jsut means wolverine lol

also x-23 is not more part of weapon x program then fantomex, in fact fantomex might be closer.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
none of theses guys were in weapon x but wolverine. The others were all part of side programs which all fall under weapon plus.

They were side-programs that branched off of or were under Weapon X specifically but did not continue on with the weapon plus numbering; Weapon X, even though starting out as Wolverine-focused and just one more number in the program, eventually became it's own sub industry of sorts, starting with Maverick/Sabertooth/Wraith were part of 'Team X' under Weapon X's control, and spinning off the programs that made Deadpool and X-23.

This list:
Wolverine
Sabertooth
Maverick/Agent 0
John wraith
Silver Fox
Garrison Kane
Deadpool
X-23

Is associated with the Weapon X program but no other part of Weapon Plus. Of those, Deadpool and Kane were through Department K so we could drop those if desired (though Department K did work as an arm of the Weapon X Project), and X-23 through the Facility which was intended as a continuation of Weapon X, hence the X-based codename. X-23 is literally the 23rd attempt at making another Weapon X.

All of weapon plus as a whole is too much.

As for battlefields, let's say:

1) Urban battlefield environment (war torn Baghdad)
2) Open environment (Grand Canyon)
3) Rustic (Vietnam Jungles)
4) Modern City (Las Vegas)

need to organize this better. Everything is everywhere and need to read 2 pages just to know the basics like who and where

Originally posted by illadelph12
As for battlefields, let's say:

1) Urban battlefield environment (war torn Baghdad)
2) Open environment (Grand Canyon)
3) Rustic (Vietnam Jungles)
4) Modern City (Las Vegas)

Open like the Grand Canyon, I'd go with Foxhound and all their long range firepower, they can probably shoot up the opposition enough to let Grey Fox do his thing.

Jungles, Weapon X, though with casualties among the less powerful members.

Urban or city... thinking about it. Leaning X due to the difficulty in actually taking them down.

Originally posted by Q99
They were side-programs that branched off of or were under Weapon X specifically but did not continue on with the weapon plus numbering; Weapon X, even though starting out as Wolverine-focused and just one more number in the program, eventually became it's own sub industry of sorts, starting with Maverick/Sabertooth/Wraith were part of 'Team X' under Weapon X's control, and spinning off the programs that made Deadpool and X-23.

This list:
Wolverine
Sabertooth
Maverick/Agent 0
John wraith
Silver Fox
Garrison Kane
Deadpool
X-23

Is associated with the Weapon X program but no other part of Weapon Plus. Of those, Deadpool and Kane were through Department K so we could drop those if desired (though Department K did work as an arm of the Weapon X Project), and X-23 through the Facility which was intended as a continuation of Weapon X, hence the X-based codename. X-23 is literally the 23rd attempt at making another Weapon X.

All of weapon plus as a whole is too much.

You have the right gist, but you wrong in a number of area's, some of which is because of reconnt. However team x happen prior to weapon x.

actaully it was revealed that all of the weapon x are part of weapon plus. In there data computers it listed every individual, even nuke. Also revealed that earliest prior to weapon x were actaully attempts to recreate wolverine.

Also if you want to go by name alone, chamber, sauron ect. were all part of weapon x when it reformed.

x-23 is not part of weapon x, she is based off what another organization tried to replicate weapon x.