Cross Genre Match #15: FOXHOUND (MGS) vs Weapon X

Started by KingD196 pages
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I'm not arguing his usefulness or powers. Just that he isn't class 10. 🙂

Oh, I absolutely agree. He's good, but he's not that good. He's like...Bane on steroids, but he's not more than Class 2-3 methinks.

In fact, nobody on the team has notable super strength besides Gray Fox and Raiden(if he's in his suit....he's useless without it).

Originally posted by KingD19
Oh, I absolutely agree. He's good, but he's not that good. He's like...Bane on steroids, but he's not more than Class 2-3 methinks.

In fact, nobody on the team has notable super strength besides Gray Fox and Raiden(if he's in his suit....he's useless without it).

He's still an extremely badass soldier (at least when he stops trying to be Snake).

That is very true.

Originally posted by Q99
True 🙂

Still when it comes down to a physical contest, even class 10, there's very few Weapon Xs I think Raven could take in close. Garrison's a class 20 and the claw brigade (Logan, Laura, Sabertooth) or Deadpool could IMO handle anyone but the cyborg ninja in melee one on one and win.

Maverick's kinetic energy absorption will be hard to deal with by Foxhound too.

Yep. I dont see him beat Wolverine and other. That was a MGS geek in me talking.😄

Originally posted by Parmaniac
can someone tell me a class 10 feat of Raven? I honestly can't remember any.
If we take "Twin Snakes" as a canon update of the original game then Raven tossed a HUGE container at Snake. He sent it flying with one hand for like 30 feet.

I forgot about how they added some new stuff in Twin Snakes. Yeah, it is a canon update...so that feats valid.

Here's the vid if someone wants to see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0lyNbBvUI
I also forgot he can paralise people with his ravens...😕 a weird power.

PS. Dont ask me where Snake was hiding the rocket launcher...

Originally posted by SamZED

PS. Dont ask me where Snake was hiding the rocket launcher...

It's totally obvious where he was hiding it. His.......mullet.

Originally posted by SamZED

I also forgot he can paralise people with his ravens...😕 a weird power.

Birdokinesis ^^ Seemed to be just for a moment, though.

It stands to reason that you're paralyzed as long as the Raven is making contact.

And going by the cutscene...Raven may have been skilled enough to shoot a missle out of the air with a mini-gun, if so, kudos to the Inuit.

What about Solidus, Vamp, Fortune and Fatman?

Originally posted by dmills
What about Solidus, Vamp, Fortune and Fatman?

They aren't officially part of FOXHOUND, but they are DEAD CELL who were contracted/put in place to replace FOXHOUND and do things in their stead since Snake took them down.

So they could be seen as subs or interim's, which means it's plausible they'd be allowed.

Fortune would be an absolute monster, with her rail gun and her protection ability(which she showed after Ocelot deactivated her uknown gizmo)

Vamp...also an absolute beast.

Fatman, not so much, but Solidus had 2 HF blades, that suit, and the tentacles.

Doesn't Raiden have nano machines inside of him that amp his stats? That's what threw Vamp off during their fight and why he was able to hang with Solidus in that exosuit. (Badass fight btw.)

Originally posted by dmills
Doesn't Raiden have nano machines inside of him that amp his stats? That's what threw Vamp off during their fight and why he was able to hang with Solidus in that exosuit. (Badass fight btw.)

Yeah, he was one of the newest generation Gene-Soldiers; nano machines and intensive experimental gene therapy. Despite his suckiness, Raiden was actually a pretty good fighter before he became a ninja....but after that; that's when he became an uber l88t badass.

Originally posted by KingD19
They aren't officially part of FOXHOUND, but they are DEAD CELL who were contracted/put in place to replace FOXHOUND and do things in their stead since Snake took them down.

So they could be seen as subs or interim's, which means it's plausible they'd be allowed.

Fortune would be an absolute monster, with her rail gun and her protection ability(which she showed after Ocelot deactivated her uknown gizmo)

Vamp...also an absolute beast.

Fatman, not so much, but Solidus had 2 HF blades, that suit, and the tentacles.

I say weapon x has the clear advantage as is. But with deadcell in the mix... I'd kill to see a mini of this.

I wonder if hfs can slice adamantium?

Originally posted by KingD19
They aren't officially part of FOXHOUND, but they are DEAD CELL who were contracted/put in place to replace FOXHOUND and do things in their stead since Snake took them down.

Also they were Navy instead of Army and specialized in faking terrorist attacks (before becoming terrorists), so they likely were more a parallel organization instead of replacements- they were shut down not long after the Foxhound incident in MGS1.

Originally posted by dmills

I wonder if hfs can slice adamantium?

HFS's were the adamantium/ebony blade of the MGS universe, either by vibrating or heating up, they could supposedly cut anything. Whether they can cut adanamtium, I'm not sure, but they'd definitely do monster damage to anyone without a skeleton.

And yeah Q, you have a point.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, he was one of the newest generation Gene-Soldiers; nano machines and intensive experimental gene therapy. Despite his suckiness, Raiden was actually a pretty good fighter before he became a ninja....but after that; that's when he became an uber l88t badass.
😂 Peeps were just mad that -outside of the first quarter of the game- Snake played a support role. Oh, and all of that weird shyte at the end.

MGS2 was a troll; that it was a manipulation of data to deceive people was even one of the meta points of the game 🙂

Hideo Kojima is a genius man...he kept you confused as hell until the very end.

Confused until the end? Man I'm still confused about MGS2 and it's been nearly ten years since I beat it.

It was like the final act of Matrix Reloaded spliced with They Live lol!