Originally posted by illadelph12
Rosters are posted on page 1 now.Those are final.
and the other team has several more guys.
honestly this is crap. and obviously some one trying to to make foxhound win. what it not bad enough to leave out several weapon x guys, but instead put in a character who completely useless and give the other team several more characters.
again x-23 is not part of weapon x. sauron/chamber/john wraith were part of it however.
Originally posted by illadelph12
It's 8 Weapon X members/associates Vs 10 Foxhound members and a Vehicle, and 4 of the members of Weapon X have healing factors.As a rational being, I believe it to be pretty fair taking all things into consideration.
also silver fox is useless. she has literally no feats, it still almsot questional that she existed at all.
so really they only have 7 combatants, only 6 of them were actaully in weapon x.
7 against 10.
I dont get it, why would some one call it weapon x, but then have some not from weapon x on the team and then have a member of weapon x that literrally did nothing......when there are several weapon x characters beign left out......
Originally posted by Q99Not the original, but her program was a continuation.
What x-23 was created by a group who gain information about weapon x program, but they them selfs are not part of it, there a different shadow organization.
Yeah, I can't see why Weapon X has less numbers after reading the comments. The following isn't meant as an affront. I am merely compiling the capabilities presented for MGS so far, and assessing Weapon X's chances.
I see mentions of FOXHOUND possesing a class 100 bullet timer, mach 20+ nuclear warheads, a ****ing MECH, military-grade firepower, and psychokinetic characters. Is this really a reasonable battle at this point? How can Weapon X even start to fight back?
I don't know much about MGS, but it appears someone really wanted to see Weapon X lose. I'm not arguing against the creators of course, I just doubt an argument for Weapon X can be formed at all here.
Originally posted by illadelph12
As a rational being, I believe it to be pretty fair taking all things into consideration.
It's a mixture of exaggeration on one side, and sour grapes on the other. Most members of Weapon X have psionic defenses, and half the group has high level healing factors. Most members of the MGS group do not and can be killed easily by conventional means. Also, the MGS group uses mainly conventional weaponry which is pretty much child's play for members of Weapon X to either tank and let their healing do it's job, or evade.
Granted, the MG Rex provides a good offense, at long range, but given the battlefields and proximity (.5 km) the use of a nuke would result in the deaths of the Foxhound members as well as most members of Weapon X, save Wolverine, Deadpool, Sabretooth, and possibly X-23.
In close quarters Weapon X has a decisive edge over most members of Foxhound, and in each environment, sans the open battlefield, stealth, which is a strong suit of both groups, can be used. The Weapon X members also have the advantage, and benefit, of having Wolverine, X-23, and Sabretooth, all of which have advanced tracking abilities.
This battle isn't so cut and dry. There's just a clear deficit of tactical thinking and imagination going on amongst the detractors.
metal gear rex
Originally posted by StyleTime
Yeah, I can't see why Weapon X has less numbers after reading the comments. The following isn't meant as an affront. I am merely compiling the capabilities presented for MGS so far, and assessing Weapon X's chances.
Most of Fox Hound is badass norms, and most of Weapon X is superhumans.
I see mentions of FOXHOUND possesing a class 100 bullet timer, mach 20+ nuclear warheads, a ****ing MECH, military-grade firepower, and psychokinetic characters. Is this really a reasonable battle at this point? How can Weapon X even start to fight back?
Worth noting is while there is a strength feat that is huge on behalf of the cyborg ninja (and almost more of a 'bracing' feat than a 'strength' one, and was not in good shape afterwards. I'd almost say it's classs 10 strength that was pushed way, way past his limit for a short time), guns are quite capable of hurting and even killing the person in the exoskeleton. Furthermore, people who IMO aren't more dangerous than Wolverine have fought in melee vs him.
The mech has regularly been taken out by a badass norm on foot with a missile launcher. Regularly.
I don't know much about MGS, but it appears someone really wanted to see Weapon X lose. I'm not arguing against the creators of course, I just doubt an argument for Weapon X can be formed at all here.
I will mention part of the reason I've been arguing the strengths of the MGS people more is because, on base, I see Weapon X as the stronger.
Actually, Rex weighs 505,450kg, which equates to 1,114,326lbs
That's around the neighborhood of 557 tons.
So that wasn't bracing, he straight up held Rex's foot that was pressing down with all of it's weight, quite casually it seemed.
And to clarify, guns and bullets are no hazard...he's fast enough to block them with no effort, and he easily evaded the machine gun fire from Rex.
Using his sword, he's blocked auto fire so fast his arm doesn't look like it's moving, you just see flashes of his blade and the spark of the bullets being cut/deflected.
He was also casually slicing through stone and metal, and slapping around slabs of rock that had to weigh a couple tons at the least.
Hell, even after having his arm sliced off, he kept fighting, and after getting gored almost completely through the abdomen, and having said abdomen crushed, he kept fighting. And after that, REX couldn't stomp him to death the first time because his exoskeleton was too durable. Even after it'd been majorly compromised, Liquid had REX pressing down with all it's might for nearly a minute before he finally crushed him.
Gray Fox was a F*cking beast, and to underestimate him in this battle gets half of Weapon X killed. Give him his laser along with his sword, and he stomps most of the battle by himself.
And to clarify, guns and bullets are no hazard...he's fast enough to block them with no effort, and he easily evaded the machine gun fire from Rex.
But if he's hit, he is hurt.
The structure of the exoskeleton has massive anti-crush durability, but he can still be shot to death.
Gray Fox was a F*cking beast, and to underestimate him in this battle gets half of Weapon X killed.
He is the best combatant on the Foxhound side easily.