Cross Genre Nominations #17

Started by Dum Dum Dugan15 pages

Originally posted by marwash22
When did i say i didn't like that it was canon? 😬

Perhaps you should spend less time jerkin' it to Star Wars dvds and more time improving your reading comprehension skills. What i said was that, if you're using animated versions, you need to specify you're doing so because what animated character's are capable of, exceeds what live action characters are capable of.

Animated Mase would pwn live Action Mase based on feats.


live action characters and animated characters are one in the same. It simply harder to potray how meta they are in live action setting. However the script documentary support that sidous fight with Mace was at superhuman speeds, that this was also shown at the speed ad ease in which 3 of the most powerful jedi master died within seconds of the battle.

there the same character. also not really Mace beating Palp is the most impressive feat period. Kitfisto was an absolute beast in animated series and he last three swings.......against palp

Here's a direct statement from Chee himself.
http://blogs.starwars.com/holocron/4

Originally posted by illadelph12
So it's Mace Windu Vs Iron Spider-man with the stip that Mace can not use the force offensively, only to amp his own physical attributes.

Also we, with the same stipulations, Mace Windu and Darth Vader Vs. Iron Spider-man and Venom.


It wouldent matter, Mace can amp his abilities to physically match spiderman, he has pre cog of his own. He vastly more skilled and tactically superior and Spiderman has no defences against his weapon. It be fairer if Mace fought Spiderman with out his light sabre.

again it wouldent be a good fight. Venom a chomp currently, and Light sabre would be super effective agaisnt venom.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Here's a direct statement from Chee himself.
http://blogs.starwars.com/holocron/4

Your right. However it also talks about contradictions to Lucas work which would make any and all apearences of anakin padwan on a mission to be non cannon. But would make other events when she not involved to be cannon (which only adds to list of feats for mace by the way). also based off chee words clone wars mini could very well be G cannon becuase several events from it are refferenced in the movies if not mistaken which makes it then G cannon such as how grevious sustain his injury.

interesting to note as well that T cannon, can not become G cannon, but C cannon can. So is T cannon completely seperate from G cannon? I mean the way it place seems to imply it not related to the rest of the cannons, because there zero refferences that it can become G cannon. It all only includes the TV show clone wars (not the mini) and the up coming live action tv show.

So anyway, this argument is a perfect example of why I'd steer clear of this one.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Here it is:

* T-canon,[2] or Television Canon[3], refers to the canon level comprising the [b]feature film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the two television shows Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series.[4][5] It was devised recently in order to define a status above the C-Level canon, as confirmed by Chee[6].

So anyhow as you can see there are two ways you can interpret that, either its saying that the CGI movie and subsequent series are canon and implicitly including the older series or it doesn't include the series because the older series is non-canon.

So the idea that the earlier series is canon while the newer is non canon is completely baseless.

People hate Ahsoka so much that they construct this idea that the series is non-canon. [/B]

Dude the old is just as canon as the new...if not more so because it directly links the storylines.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There light sabre never touch the glass. script and commentary both back that it was energy that destroy the widow when the collided. That they were fighting at extreme speeds.

sorry that you dislike that it cannon, but deal with it.

I thought they both force pushed the window causing it to shatter....

Originally posted by Q99
So anyway, this argument is a perfect example of why I'd steer clear of this one.

why there refferences to fallow, and pretty much anything that contradicts the films is not cannon.

also I pretty sure his own evidences might have just prove that I was right all along........

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I thought they both force pushed the window causing it to shatter....

In the script it because of the speed and power of there strikes which shatters the glass if not mistaken. entire fight was suposes to being take place at superhuman speeds.

also why would they force push the window lol.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Your right. However it also talks about contradictions to Lucas work which would make any and all apearences of anakin padwan on a mission to be non cannon. But would make other events when she not involved to be cannon (which only adds to list of feats for mace by the way). also based off chee words clone wars mini could very well be G cannon becuase several events from it are refferenced in the movies if not mistaken which makes it then G cannon such as how grevious sustain his injury.

interesting to note as well that T cannon, can not become G cannon, but C cannon can. So is T cannon completely seperate from G cannon? I mean the way it place seems to imply it not related to the rest of the cannons, because there zero refferences that it can become G cannon. It all only includes the TV show clone wars (not the mini) and the up coming live action tv show.

There are two different explanations as to why grevious coughs.Theres the part where mace crushed his lungs.But I heard an explanation somewhere that its imperfect breathing tech that was perfected on vader.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
In the script it because of the speed and power of there strikes which shatters the glass if not mistaken. entire fight was suposes to being take place at superhuman speeds.

also why would they force push the window lol.

Why wouldn't they? 😖hifty:

Its obvious the sabers didn't hit them but I don't buy the shockwaves either.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
There are two different explanations as to why grevious coughs.Theres the part where mace crushed his lungs.But I heard an explanation somewhere that its imperfect breathing tech that was perfected on vader.

I never onces heard of that, he also had no problems breathing in the mini up to that part. I need to actaully see a refferences to that, becuase I think so one told you some BS to be honest. Also show as cannon as they come, the only way something could over write that would have to come from the movies it self, which that was never onces stated.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
why there refferences to fallow, and pretty much anything that contradicts the films is not cannon.

also I pretty sure his own evidences might have just prove that I was right all along........

Because it's going to be 80% canon argument.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Why wouldn't they? 😖hifty:

Its obvious the sabers didn't hit them but I don't buy the shockwaves either.


lol

Oh well, you can think what you want, I pretty positive it was stated in the script and even in the directors cut if not mistaken.

Originally posted by Q99
Because it's going to be 80% canon argument.

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
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the script wouldn't be usable in a forum battle.

Originally posted by -Pr-
the script wouldn't be usable in a forum battle.
Exactly.Just like when people used a deleted scene of nihilus killing sion.Its not canon.

Originally posted by -Pr-
the script wouldn't be usable in a forum battle.

why not? it what happened.......just further proves how narrow minded people are that they actually believe that fight took place at normal humans speed when clearly it was intended to be at speed well beyond that. People are far ti literal on the boards and seem to be unable to grasp what being implied.

I dont really care either way, the show is prove enough alone, script jsut over kill.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
why not? it what happened.......

I dont really care either way, the show is prove enough alone, script jsut over kill.

I agree with this.But the script isn't allowed.What was supposed to be portrayed and what was actually portrayed are two very different things.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
why not? it what happened.......just further proves how narrow minded people are that they actually believe that fight took place at normal humans speed when clearly it was intended to be at speed well beyond that. People are far ti literal on the boards and seem to be unable to grasp what being implied.

I dont really care either way, the show is prove enough alone, script jsut over kill.

Only what's shown on screen is technically canon, though if it was ambiguous enough it could be taken on a case by case basis.

So, uh, to steer this thing back on topic:

How many nods for Iron Spider-man Vs. Mace Windu (w/o offensive Force use)?

I believe there are 3 at this point.