Surfer/Thor vs Superman/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Proof he found out by talking to some random alien schlub at an interstellar truck stop?

Come on, you think they are going to publish something as vanal as that?

This scan

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/...ourer518no4.jpg

Is a MISSLEADING feat

First of all it ommits CRITICAL information

Silver Surfer has interacted with the Shiar empire, the Skrull empire and the Kree empire WAY BEFORE that feat. Any of those empires will be capable of knowing Gladiator's weakness.
Isn't Genis part of the Kree?

That is why MOST LIKELLY HE says in that scan "I KNOW", not "I sense"

If you can prove that Silver Surfer NEVER interacted WITH ANY OF THOSE empires PRIOR to this "first encounter" I concede that He "sensed a wakness"

He meet GLADIATOR WAAAAAAY before that. Is a missleading feat.

Silver Surfer detecting weaknesses is VERY, VERY QUESTIONABLE and most likelly not true

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the strontians consisted of just gladiator at the time, and were nameless

I'm not following you. What do you mean by that?

The rest of the Strontian race were dead at that point in time. Xenith still being alive wasn't introduced until a long time afterwards and was created to parallel the Kal El/Kara relationship (as Gladiator is a Supes analogue). The scale, scope, and weaknesses of Gladiator's people is not common knowledge in the MU. The Strontians are a nearly extinct race.

Originally posted by illadelph12
The rest of the Strontian race were dead at that point in time. Xenith still being alive wasn't introduced until a long time afterwards and was created to parallel the Kal El/Kara relationship (as Gladiator is a Supes analogue). The scale, scope, and weaknesses of Gladiator's people is not common knowledge in the MU. The Strontians are a nearly extinct race.

Fantastis Four #250 YEAR 1983

Four SKRULL posing as X-men USE a radi-blaster VS GLADIATOR

The Skrull knew it. It seems IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE at least in the Skrull empire

Nah, you're making a baseless assumption that the tech the Skrull's used had the exact frequency Surfer stated he would use to weaken Gladiator simply because it was a radiation based weapon. Gladiator is not impervious to all things save that specific frequency, so assuming that the weapon had to be that frequency in order to harm him and therefore means it is common knowledge is illogical.

Also, it appears that you have an ulterior motive.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Nah, you're making a baseless assumption that the tech the Skrull's used had the exact frequency Surfer stated he would use to weaken Gladiator simply because it was a radiation based weapon. Gladiator is not impervious to all things save that specific frequency, so assuming that the weapon had to be that frequency in order to harm him and therefore means it is common knowledge is illogical.

Also, it appears that you have an ulterior motive.

Baseless assumptions?

Gladiator is affected by certain wave or raditaion frequency and the SKRULL know it.

how is baseless that SS will have learn that weaknesses based on his countless travels in the universe?

BASELESS is thinking that SS DETECTED Glads weaknesses WHEN YOU KNOW ALL THIS FACTS

This will be at least common knowledge in the Skrull Army actually in the Skrull empire. Do you think they are not going to share this knowledge with the rest of their OWN population? 😂

It seems is pretty much common KNOWLEDGE 😂

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/GLADS.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
People could make an argument both ways. Surfer Cosmic awareness sense Supes AND the Martian weakness and he easily dispose of them. A Thor that is unleashing everything onto a team is a beast; his power output is next to none and his omni blast could ruin some on team 2. Then we have a two on one and if the Martian and Wonder Woman double team Surfer, I could see Surfer beating them (could be difficult) while Thor stalemate or probably beat Supes.

Team 1 has a good chance of winning due to their cosmic power and if they play their cards right.

lol.

i could warn you, but i'll leave it for now...

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Originally posted by -Pr-
lol.

i could warn you, but i'll leave it for now...

Lol... why would you warn me... I don't believe that surfer could beat any of them that easily, I'm just going by what I have read from posters on kmc.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... why would you warn me... I don't believe that surfer could beat any of them that easily, I'm just going by what I have read from posters on kmc.

don't. you're better off.

Originally posted by -Pr-
lol.

i could warn you, but i'll leave it for now...

We both could race to see who warns Carver first. biscuits

Originally posted by Badabing
mmm

We both could race to see who warns Carver first. biscuits

You're too top heavy, and would fall over.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Baseless assumptions?

Gladiator is affected by certain wave or raditaion frequency and the SKRULL know it.

how is baseless that SS will have learn that weaknesses based on his countless travels in the universe?

BASELESS is thinking that SS DETECTED Glads weaknesses WHEN YOU KNOW ALL THIS FACTS

This will be at least common knowledge in the Skrull Army actually in the Skrull empire. Do you think they are not going to share this knowledge with the rest of their OWN population? 😂

It seems is pretty much common KNOWLEDGE 😂

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/GLADS.jpg

Originally posted by illadelph12
Nah, you're making a baseless assumption that the tech the Skrull's used had the exact frequency Surfer stated he would use to weaken Gladiator simply because it was a radiation based weapon. Gladiator is not impervious to all things save that specific frequency, so assuming that the weapon had to be that frequency in order to harm him and therefore means it is common knowledge is illogical.

Also, it appears that you have an ulterior motive.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Granting your assumptions, I suppose then that Kryptonite and red solar radiation would be common knowledge as well for as well a traveled character like Surfer. Since at least one alien race has used them against Superman. Ok, by your logic, Surfer also knows these weaknesses via common knowledge rule. No... really?! shock

Granting my assumptions?

The ONLY ONES ASSUMING HERE, IS THE PEOPLE THAT THINK SS CAN SENSE GLADIATOR'S WEAKNESSES, LIKE YOU

Nobody say He could not know it by common knowledge.

However SS has no common knowledge of DC AND SS will not know them UNLESS they are from the same universe, are they from the same universe? 😂

^ Read the rules of this forum:

Originally posted by Digi

Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Read the rules of this forum: 😂 indeed.

By the FORUM rules ONLY and that is the rules of here ONLY

Care to pit them under different rules?

But the FACT stands SS in not detecting weaknesses on anyone 😂

Originally posted by biensalsa
By the FORUM rules ONLY and that is the rules of here ONLY

Care to pit them under different rules?

KMC rules are for KMC forums and not outside of it.

WOW!!! thats so hard to understand. Troll.

Originally posted by biensalsa
By the FORUM rules ONLY and that is the rules of here ONLY

Care to pit them under different rules?

Originally posted by The Nuul
KMC rules are for KMC forums and not outside of it.

WOW!!! thats so hard to understand. Troll.

I understand the RULES of KMC, he just post them a second ago.

I meant OUTSIDE KMC BRAINIAC

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
kinda

I guess that's a no