Grey Warden Commander vs. Link (TP)

Started by TacDavey6 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't ignore facts in a game you twist facts. I just solved this dilemma for ya.

He also leaves himself open to be killed himself but with all of these characters they have defenses and heavier armor on with better abilities.

Defenses don't matter. Mortal draw kills anything no matter what. It's gameplay mechanics. Just like with Final Fantasy games we wouldn't say that Squall or Cloud actually have to wait for the other character to attack before they can. That's why gameplay mechanics have absolutely no place in these debates.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well it's true brah so laugh it up all you want. 🙂

Strength feats or GTFO

Originally posted by The Scenario
And Link has Magic Armor.
Ok and the warden have enchantments along with everything else for armor and for their weapons which really hurt Link's chances here.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Since Quan likes to use gameplay mechanics. Link puts on magic armor and becomes invincible. He uses mortal draw and insta kills every warden. Their defenses doesn't matter much because Mortal draw can kill everyone except Ganon.
Too many abilities to counter from the warden. Link cannot become invincible. Not try but sadly he loses every matchup.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Defenses don't matter. Mortal draw kills anything no matter what. It's gameplay mechanics. Just like with Final Fantasy games we wouldn't say that Squall or Cloud actually have to wait for the other character to attack before they can. That's why gameplay mechanics have absolutely no place in these debates.
yes, they do. The game honors them and that's a different story. The warden has too many abilities with enchantable weapons here for Link to have a chance.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Strength feats or GTFO
Link doesn't overpower any opponent he beats them due to skill. Did you ever plat twilight princess ? What does strength have to do with a mage anyways ? Does the mage lose because his powers might not have to do with strength ? I mean I could be really cheap and throw an arcane warrior at Link but I feel bad for him then.

No, I don't think you understand this, Quanchi. If you want to use game mechanics, that lets Link become invincible with the Magic Armor and the Mortal Draw one-hit kills. That's the mechanic.

1. Warrior- Magic Armor blocks his attacks, Link kills him with Mortal Draw.
2. Rogue- Magic Armor blocks his attacks, Link kills him with Mortal Draw.
3. Mage- Magic Armor blocks his attacks, Link kills him with Mortal Draw.
4. Composite- Magic Armor blocks his attacks, Link kills him with Mortal Draw.

That game combo basically makes Link unbeatable since he can't be hurt with Magic Armor, and the Mortal Draw kills everything in one hit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link cannot become invincible.

Link's magic armor says otherwise ermm

Originally posted by quanchi112

Too many abilities to counter from the warden. Link cannot become invincible. Not try but sadly he loses every matchup.
Magic armor says otherwise. I can say the same for the Warden's magic abilities being auto target.

Originally posted by The Scenario
No, I don't think you understand this, Quanchi. If you want to use game mechanics, that lets Link become invincible with the Magic Armor and the Mortal Draw one-hit kills. That's the mechanic.

1. Warrior- Magic Armor blocks his attacks, Link kills him with Mortal Draw.
2. Rogue- Magic Armor blocks his attacks, Link kills him with Mortal Draw.
3. Mage- Magic Armor blocks his attacks, Link kills him with Mortal Draw.
4. Composite- Magic Armor blocks his attacks, Link kills him with Mortal Draw.

That game combo basically makes Link unbeatable since he can't be hurt with Magic Armor, and the Mortal Draw kills everything in one hit.

Link's not invincible. That's ridiculous nor is it feasible.

1.magic armor may be able to block hyrule attacks but these warriors attacks with their abilities and the enchantments they bring to the table.

2.Wrong, same logic applies and rogues have cunning to find weap spots in any armor. Laughs.

3.You can't block his attacks nor can Link block every attack in his own game and mages never miss either.

4.This is a massive stomp against Link as the abilities are combined.

Link isn't unbeatable with his magic armor either in his own game.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
Link's magic armor says otherwise ermm
False.
Originally posted by Phanteros
Magic armor says otherwise. I can say the same for the Warden's magic abilities being auto target.
You are misrepresenting his magical armor like most other feats you have no idea what you are talking about.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link's not invincible. That's ridiculous nor is it feasible.

1.magic armor may be able to block hyrule attacks but these warriors attacks with their abilities and the enchantments they bring to the table.

2.Wrong, same logic applies and rogues have cunning to find weap spots in any armor. Laughs.

3.You can't block his attacks nor can Link block every attack in his own game and mages never miss either.

4.This is a massive stomp against Link as the abilities are combined.

Link isn't unbeatable with his magic armor either in his own game.

False. You are misrepresenting his magical armor like most other feats you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ok now this one is hilarious 😆

The armor is only effective against anything from Hyrule?

With this logic Link is unaffected by Dragonage magic as well then.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link doesn't overpower any opponent he beats them due to skill. Did you ever plat twilight princess ? What does strength have to do with a mage anyways ? Does the mage lose because his powers might not have to do with strength ? I mean I could be really cheap and throw an arcane warrior at Link but I feel bad for him then.

So, uh, no strength feats then?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link's not invincible. That's ridiculous nor is it feasible.

The Magic Armor explicitly states that it makes Link invincible. It drains rupees when he's hit instead of hearts.


1.magic armor may be able to block hyrule attacks but these warriors attacks with their abilities and the enchantments they bring to the table.

And these abilities and ENCHANTMENTS are? Name one that could get past the Magic Armor.


2.Wrong, same logic applies and rogues have cunning to find weap spots in any armor. Laughs.

Magic Armor has no weak points. It transfers damage from his hearts to his rupees, meaning no attack can harm him.


3.You can't block his attacks nor can Link block every attack in his own game and mages never miss either.

Magic Armor transfers all damage to rupees. So yes, he does block every single attack the mage can throw at him, since of them will be able to hurt him.


4.This is a massive stomp against Link as the abilities are combined.

Yet you have not named a single ability that could beat the magic armor. Therefor, even the composite fails to hurt Link and falls to a single Mortal Draw.


Link isn't unbeatable with his magic armor either in his own game.

Yes he is. The entire point of the Magic Armor is to make Link invincible in his own game.


False. You are misrepresenting his magical armor like most other feats you have no idea what you are talking about.

By the sound of it, you don't actually understand how the Magic Armor works. Did you even get it when you played?

Originally posted by quanchi112

False. You are misrepresenting his magical armor like most other feats you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ironic coming from you. I doubt you played TP because that's what the Armor basically does is make him invincible.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
Ok now this one is hilarious 😆

The armor is only effective against anything from Hyrule?

With this logic Link is unaffected by Dragonage magic as well then.

So you're saying any force cannot harm Link in this armor ? Superman from comics cannot nor can Darkseid right because his armor blocks everything no matter the power level. To describe anything as making you invincible from a video game such as zelda is one of the most absurd claims I have ever heard. Only a fool would even entertain the word invincible but believe it makes him invincible it only hurts you not me.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're saying any force cannot harm Link in this armor ? Superman from comics cannot nor can Darkseid right because his armor blocks everything no matter the power level. To describe anything as making you invincible from a video game such as zelda is one of the most absurd claims I have ever heard. Only a fool would even entertain the word invincible but believe it makes him invincible it only hurts you not me.

Superman and Darkseid are vastly stronger than both universes. Darkseid alone would make both of them his ***** but no one from DA has shown the strength or magical ability to bypass some magical enchantment.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
So, uh, no strength feats then?
So by this logic the stronger guy always wins, amirite ?
Originally posted by Phanteros
Ironic coming from you. I doubt you played TP because that's what the Armor basically does is make him invincible.
You don't need to acquire the magic armor in tp. Think.
Originally posted by The Scenario
The Magic Armor explicitly states that it makes Link invincible. It drains rupees when he's hit instead of hearts.

And these abilities and ENCHANTMENTS are? Name one that could get past the Magic Armor.

Magic Armor has no weak points. It transfers damage from his hearts to his rupees, meaning no attack can harm him.

Magic Armor transfers all damage to rupees. So yes, he does block every single attack the mage can throw at him, since of them will be able to hurt him.

Yet you have not named a single ability that could beat the magic armor. Therefor, even the composite fails to hurt Link and falls to a single Mortal Draw.

Yes he is. The entire point of the Magic Armor is to make Link invincible in his own game.

By the sound of it, you don't actually understand how the Magic Armor works. Did you even get it when you played?

So no force from anything can hurt him, right ? That's what you claim, right ?

Frost powers, fireball, petrify, lightning, etc.

You think missiles just bounce off him I get it. I just can't believe you'd ever have the audacity to claim invincible.

I've named numerous abilties such as petrify then shattering him, marking him with death and taking advantage of his weak points as a rogue, using enchantments to freeze or paralyze him while just dealing attacks.

So dorf can't hurt him in this armor ?

Nope.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Superman and Darkseid are vastly stronger than both universes. Darkseid alone would make both of them his ***** but no one from DA has shown the strength or magical ability to bypass some magical enchantment.
Then it isn't invincible which is the point. don't use words which don't apply. This shouldn't be heard to grasp. You obviously didn't play dragon age.

Originally posted by NemeBro
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I just easily trumped the hilarious claim of invincible. .

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then it isn't invincible which is the point. don't use words which don't apply. This shouldn't be heard to grasp. You obviously didn't play dragon age.

What?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're saying any force cannot harm Link in this armor ? Superman from comics cannot nor can Darkseid right because his armor blocks everything no matter the power level.

Please prove me wrong and go find a video/valid statement that proves this armor doesn't allow Link to be damaged while in effect. Nope, but the armor's abilities definitely wouldn't last very long against them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To describe anything as making you invincible from a video game such as zelda is one of the most absurd claims I have ever heard. Only a fool would even entertain the word invincible but believe it makes him invincible it only hurts you not me.

So since it is LoZ you can't be invincible?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't need to acquire the magic armor in tp. Think.

So dorf can't hurt him in this armor ?

So you don't even know how it works, so what grounds do you even have to claim it wouldn't make him invincible?

Actually he can't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just easily trumped the hilarious claim of invincible. .

With even more hilariously superior logic amirite?