Grey Warden Commander vs. Link (TP)

Okay Quanchii, this is getting ridiculous.

You don't seem to be grasping very simple points here. Links Magic armor will make him invincible, which means all the Gray Warden versions except the mage will be killed by Mortal Draw, since they can't stop him from doing it, since he has the magic armor. They can stun him only temporarily and not long enough to kill him, sadly.

That leaves the mage, who you claim can dispel his magic armor. That's all well and good, but while the mage is casting that dispel spell, what is to stop Link from Mortal Drawing him in half? The answer? Nothing. So he will.

The rest of your claims are not supported by anything. You simply make claims, and do nothing to back them up.

Unless you can provide valid reasons behind your claims, they mean nothing. Oh, and saying things like, "because of the savagery of the Warden" is not a valid defense. It's just ANOTHER claim with nothing to back it up.

Come talk to me when you have a reasonable argument.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Okay Quanchii, this is getting ridiculous.

You don't seem to be grasping very simple points here. Links Magic armor will make him invincible, which means all the Gray Warden versions except the mage will be killed by Mortal Draw, since they can't stop him from doing it, since he has the magic armor. They can stun him only temporarily and not long enough to kill him, sadly.

That leaves the mage, who you claim can dispel his magic armor. That's all well and good, but while the mage is casting that dispel spell, what is to stop Link from Mortal Drawing him in half? The answer? Nothing. So he will.

The rest of your claims are not supported by anything. You simply make claims, and do nothing to back them up.

Unless you can provide valid reasons behind your claims, they mean nothing. Oh, and saying things like, "because of the savagery of the Warden" is not a valid defense. It's just ANOTHER claim with nothing to back it up.

Come talk to me when you have a reasonable argument.

Mage is at a safe distance and can cast healing powers to bring him back when he gets near the point of death or to actually come back.

False.

You've seen the videos but haven't played the game so this is all very confusing to you which I excuse you from. It's not your fault, really.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by The Scenario
No, you're wrong once again
In game Link tanks flaming arrows and then
All he needs to do is Mortal Draw once
And all Grey Wardens fall like runts

No, not at all, ever met a redead?
They can stun Link and try to behead
But of course then Link makes the check
And can move just in time to counter and wreck
Link can dodge easy and stay out of range
Then snipe from a distance he can arrange

And I explained back the way it actually goes
The boots stop movement, but it is Link who throws
If you don't get this I don't know how to say
Link's sword strikes need no weight in the way
Boots don't increase, arm strength and blows
They just stop Link from ending up on his nose

But Midna won't fight, except for but one
So to keep bringing it up helps your case none
The Warden's no boar, he's a simple man
So Link's combat abilities have this in the can
You've named so few skills, I know not what you mean
But Link's Mortal Draw simply makes the scene
If not, no worries, Link still has a bow
With bombs and the Hawkeye, the Warden won't have a go

I said prove he could kill, not just harm or bleed
Link takes on opponents the Warden can't heed
His skill is superior, as is his strength
Link leaves the Warden to die after a length

Links' facing weaker enemies with weaker gear, strength, durability, intelligence, no enchantments, lack versatility, experience, etc.

Without the boots he can't stop the movement which means the feat is impossible and that he doesn't have the weight necessary to stop them.

Ignore all the aid he had and the fact fate decreed he wins so it neutralizes your own argument and in this thread fate plays no part. Mortal draw also leaves him open to death so let him sit there and die if he wants to.

Anything in tp can kill Link a sword, etc. You agree so of course he dies then.

Link takes on lesser foes who are less cunning and who lack organization.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because they aren't aimed right at his throat and aren't skilled enough to do so unlike the wardens.

Show me a Warden putting an arrow in someone's throat.

for your trouble here's Link hitting hitting a 1 inch pole from a town away:
YouTube video

2:10 for the actual shot. So that proves Link can put an arrow in the Warden's throat.

Links' facing weaker enemies with weaker gear, strength, durability, intelligence, no enchantments, lack versatility, experience, etc.

And Zant and Ganondorf, so your point just died. It has no bearing on the fact that Link has the tools and skills to kill the Warden from a few thousand feet away or up close, whichever. The Warden's never fought anything like Link, either.

Without the boots he can't stop the movement which means the feat is impossible and that he doesn't have the weight necessary to stop them.

Yeah, and unless the Warden rolls into a ball and charges Link, it won't be a problem. However, Link lifting strength is able to pick up Gorons, and putting that behind a sword swing makes it deal a ridiculous amount of damage.

Ignore all the aid he had and the fact fate decreed he wins so it neutralizes your own argument and in this thread fate plays no part. Mortal draw also leaves him open to death so let him sit there and die if he wants to.

It's almost like you think the Warden doesn't have party members to help him. And what with this fate crap, it sounds like you don't think Link can do anything. You have yet to actually prove Link will die in one hit if he uses the Mortal Draw, and you have yet to prove the Warden can hit Link before getting killed.

Anything in tp can kill Link a sword, etc. You agree so of course he dies then.

Sure, why not, but nothing can kill Link in one hit like you seem to think. Unfortunately, Link can pull off the Mortal Draw before the Warden can kill him.

Link takes on lesser foes who are less cunning and who lack organization.

But this is one on one, and again, the Warden's never fought anything like Link.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Show me a Warden putting an arrow in someone's throat.

for your trouble here's Link hitting hitting a 1 inch pole from a town away:
YouTube video

2:10 for the actual shot. So that proves Link can put an arrow in the Warden's throat.

And Zant and Ganondorf, so your point just died. It has no bearing on the fact that Link has the tools and skills to kill the Warden from a few thousand feet away or up close, whichever. The Warden's never fought anything like Link, either.

Yeah, and unless the Warden rolls into a ball and charges Link, it won't be a problem. However, Link lifting strength is able to pick up Gorons, and putting that behind a sword swing makes it deal a ridiculous amount of damage.

It's almost like you think the Warden doesn't have party members to help him. And what with this fate crap, it sounds like you don't think Link can do anything. You have yet to actually prove Link will die in one hit if he uses the Mortal Draw, and you have yet to prove the Warden can hit Link before getting killed.

Sure, why not, but nothing can kill Link in one hit like you seem to think. Unfortunately, Link can pull off the Mortal Draw before the Warden can kill him.

But this is one on one, and again, the Warden's never fought anything like Link.

Link I think doesn't have the skill that the warden's well mainly the rogue posses in this area.

Zant and Dorf aren't that formidable nor do they prove capable of beating more than 5 guys without an army or aid present.

The warden's fought enemies much more powerful and more intelligent and formidable than Link. This should be like pregame to a warden.

Why would the warden ever do something so stupid as to roll in a ball and attack ? The wardens would do massive damage to something or someone so stupid yet Link's options are put on boots and stop because he cannot really do anything else.

Link can be parried easily by enemy knights so really his strength doesn't show it at all in combat it's his skill that carries him. It doesn't matter anyways fate makes him win which has nothing to do with this thread.

The fate thing makes every feat Link did unimpressive because this had to happen but in this thread he doesn't have fate on his side so he dies. They make it clear in the game he puts himself in as much danger as his enemy.

I disagree the mortal draw leaves him vulnerable and the warden attacks.

Link's sub par from the enemies he's faced think osu vs a high school team.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope, and this can be negated and it is only temporary.

Mage is at a safe distance and can cast healing powers to bring him back when he gets near the point of death or to actually come back.

False.

You've seen the videos but haven't played the game so this is all very confusing to you which I excuse you from. It's not your fault, really.

Concession accepted.

Ha ha ha. Thanks for proving my point. I love how on the very post after I accuse you of claiming things without backing them up, you respond with "False" and "Nope".

You, sir, are amusing.

You have blatantly ignored all my points, and have completely disregarded my call for evidence to support your points. Although, you'll probably respond to that with a "nope" or maybe a good old "false". And then sit back and pretend those are actually good answers.

Oh, and by the way. I have played both games all the way through. In fact, I have played Dragon Age Origins through a few times.

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Originally posted by TacDavey
Ha ha ha. Thanks for proving my point. I love how on the very post after I accuse you of claiming things without backing them up, you respond with "False" and "Nope".

You, sir, are amusing.

You have blatantly ignored all my points, and have completely disregarded my call for evidence to support your points. Although, you'll probably respond to that with a "nope" or maybe a good old "false". And then sit back and pretend those are actually good answers.

Oh, and by the way. I have played both games all the way through. In fact, I have played Dragon Age Origins through a few times.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
What have I stated that was not in either game ?

It's not what you have stated, but what you haven't. Evidence being the most important.

Simply responding to a point with "Nope" isn't good enough Quanchi.

to be very honest, i dont think ANYONE should debate with quanchi. he obviously wont accept when hes wrong, so whats the point? we all know the answer to this fight. i mean he LITERALLY takes what you guys say and either 1. ignores it completely or 2. he gives some other reason for why its "wrong"