Thanos/Darkseid vs WWH/Superman/Wonder Woman/Thor

Of course you left out context.. the context of Thanos allowing that to happen.. the context of Thanos trying to put on a show for death.. How do you put on a show.. by making it seem difficult. We saw spiderman kick and move Thanos almost over.. yet Thanos can walk through an odin gungnir blast.. does that makes sense to you? M. Thor can knock over Thanos with a hammer shot.. yet a weaker clone can stop Thor's hammer with his TK with ease.. Does that makes sense to you.. We aren't even talking about regular Thanos either we are talking IG weilding Thanos... The context is.. he was putting on a show and allowing all that to happen to make it seem like they had a chance... It was further a case of PIS for the sake of the story.. How fun would it be for Thanos to have pwned all of them with a gesture from another galaxy away? It wouldn't have been.

You also realize.. that even in a normal situation that blow would've have done a thing to Thanos right? You know thanos has a very good healing factor as well right? He's been through a lot worse and healed from a lot worse than Wolv. claws being shoved inside him... Being at the nexus of reality and the black hole come to mind... He heals very quickly.. maybe not as quickly as the Hulk but very quickly. If he can heal from those severe attacks quickly.. why would someone with no cutting ability even pose a threat to him.. Do you honestly think he would punch him to death? lol. Show me Thanos getting KO'd by punches in his entire history.. It doesn't exist.. He has only been KO'd a couple of times and that was via energy.. blunt force trama does very little to Thanos.. So what is Hulk going to do again?

Now you're not getting something here which is undisputable... Prof. Hulk is still very strong.. Prof.. hulk was still pissed.. this was base level hulk this was already pissed off hulk WITH WITH WITH another pissed off class 100 brick in The Thing... So do you get how much stronger that makes Thanos? If he can EASILY overpower a pissed off Prof Hulk WITH the help of another class 100 guy.. with ease... what does that tell us... He is a lot stronger than a hulk that is already raging and building up strength and another class 100 AT THE SAME TIME. Thanos even tells us... 'you call yourselves strong... I'm strength personified" That is how ease it was and how little he thought of both their strength at the same time... So.. your whole WWH will already be stronger is just nonsense... Even that Hulk would have to build up enough anger just to match where Thanos is already at... Now onto your no limit fallacy...

You do realize that saying Hulk can get as strong as he wants doesn't work right? We've never ever seen Hulk get mad enough to be as strong as his hyperbole implies.. Now I'm not saying it's not part of his powerset.. I'm saying... he never ever makes it to that level.. so to say that this is a possibility in a normal situation is just plain off. In fact, it's not even in the realm of possiblities since we've never seen it in all of Hulk appearances.. 1000s of them. To go further...

One reason why we don't see it is he's KO'd or put down before that. Now you avoided my question before but try and answer it now... HERE IT IS.. You do realize that Hulk has been KO'd A LOT more times than Thanos has ever been KO'd. Thanos doesn't even get KO'd from punches or blunt force Trama... Hammer shots from a amped Thor with the PG all made him smile and come back for more.. However, Hulk has been KO'd countless times before ever reaching this "I can get as strong as I need to be" level... So what is clear is if anybody is getting KO'd via blunt force trama it's Hulk not Thanos.

Originally posted by Stoic
Strength-wise WW Hulk is not only viably stronger than Thanos by a small margin, but he can become leagues stronger than even that, which is his power set (he has no strength cap). I never brought up, or mentioned that Thanos was afraid of the Hulk, but it does state on panel that he had attempted to avoid a conflict with the behemoth known as the Hulk on panel.

Originally posted by darthgoober
If Captain America or Spiderman were engaging some random bank robbers and thought to themselves that they'd sought to avoid the conflict would it automatically imply that the reason they were afraid of the bank robbers?

Savage Hulk is immune to damage now?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But thanos can't simply pimp slap savage hulk away.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think that exactly? I mean I'm not saying he can, but what makes you say that he can't?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Savage hulk feats?I mean thanos would defintitly win and probably a good sized majority but he won't just be doing away with him like he did professor hulk.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I wouldn't be suprised, it's not as if SH hasn't been taken down by far less. And don't think I'm trying to use Savage's low end feats to justify the stance that he'd be nothing to Thanos, I'm just pointing out that him getting slapped away in a similar manner if the two encountered each other is far from being beyond the realm of possibility.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm not saying he won't own him.But he won't absolutely stomp him.Can we agree on that?

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean in this particular thread or in general?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
This thread.And possibly in general.But mostly this thread.

I was never saying that Thanos and DS win this, I was just pointing out that Thanos's statement doesn't really imply that he was ever afraid of the Hulk anymore than Spiderman stating that he tried to avoid conflict with a bankrobber would imply fear on Spidey's part.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Carver carver... when did you see me claim that Thanos punked any version but Prof. Hulk? I never have, I only bring up the ownage when people try and act like Thanos would be scared of any hulk. The quote in question.. as omega points out... is nothing more than wary of fighting him, which anybody with half a brain would be. However, even the quote in question NEVER mentions which version or The Hulk.. just that it's the Hulk. You act like prof Hulk has no impressive showings.. do you remember the mountain range feat just to name one? He is clearly still very stong and himself has good feats. Him mocking and punking someone that strong.. speaks to how strong Thanos is.. It also shows that Thanos wouldn't run from the Hulk.. period... he wouldn't back down nor be scared to engage... He in fact would confront the hulk if they met and pwned with ease.

One correction... that wasn't proffessor hulk that lifted the mountain, it was savage hulk even though I do agree, professor hulk is easily high class 100 bujt he isn't close to being as strong as his other incarnations.

are you sure about that carver.. I thought that is why Reed was talking to him to keep him angry..

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
are you sure about that carver.. I thought that is why Reed was talking to him to keep him angry..

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah well like I said before, I'm not really arguing one way or another in this thread because I think threads that neuter characters into a state that they have virtually no showings in are dumb, but in the end it would depend on just how neutered everybody is.

I was never saying that Thanos and DS win this, I was just pointing out that Thanos's statement doesn't really imply that he was ever afraid of the Hulk anymore than Spiderman stating that he tried to avoid conflict with a bankrobber would imply fear on Spidey's part.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
are you sure about that carver.. I thought that is why Reed was talking to him to keep him angry..

Yeah... I could be wrong but I feel safe to say that "that" was savage hulk.

^ Savage Hulk.

I'm sorry guys but it was Professor Hulk. It was actually the second comic arc with the the Professor's persona that we saw in the Secret Wars. Savage Hulk is Bruce in an extremely immature state. The Hulk from the Secret Wars was methodical, and calculating just like you know who. The only difference was that the persona was not yet cemented in canonical comic history.

Professor Hulk was indeed a powerhouse, he started out at twice the base strength of Savage Hulk, but because of his maturity level, he could not ramp up like the less mature yet more sniveling, Savage Hulk. Professor Hulk was able to floor the Abomination with one punch while being the size of a mouse, so he was very strong.

Now about Thanos' Curly, Larry, and Moe routine that he pulled on the Thing, and Professor Hulk. It holds no evidence as to how a fight between them would go, because it was a two on one, and it could be argued that the far inferior Thing was in the Professors way. Thanos pimp slapping the current Hulk is possible, but he's not going to be one shotting him.

I could easily believe that Thor and the Hulk could restrain Thanos, while Diana chipped him down one piece at a time. I could also easily believe that the three of them would wreck Thanos.

Thanos has been measured, he was cut by Wolverine, and this is a direct measurement of his durability (like it or not), whereas WW Hulk was hard to cut by Wolverine. There's more than enough blood in the water to call this one a near stomp for Team 2. Am I not low balling Thanos? Not really, not when you take into consideration that he was cut by one of the most durable substances in the Marvel Universe, but still the fact that Wolverine was barely able to cut the Hulk should tell most people what they need to know.

^ Professor Hulk is the stable synthesis of Savage Hulk, Bruce Banner and Grey Hulk. That wasn't who appeared in Secret Wars.

secret wars hulk was weaker since he had too much banner, he had to get tricked by reed and the others to harness his anger power in that form

professor hulk's face has smooth features and banner's haircut (sometimes where's glasses)