Thanos/Darkseid vs WWH/Superman/Wonder Woman/Thor

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
*Edited for excessive smugness and irrelevance*

So, now you wanna argue about DS h2h abilities eh? Okay.. you do realize that in some of the fights you mentioned DS didn't win right.. he just held his own? Please list for me all these times he's beat down supes BY H2H only as you claim? Same with Orion.. I want a list of this victories via h2h as I seem to remember many of them not being strictly h2h which is what we are talking about here.

That's pretty much the only pure h/h encounter they've had. No indication there that in a pure h/h match he'd be at Superman's mercy, or at the mercy of anyone on Team 2 for that matter.

So you admit that Darkseid can at least hold his own against Superman in h/h? Good since that's the crux of my argument: that saying DS is useless here and would get beaten by anyone on team 2 in h/h is off base.

Orion and DS fought pure h/h once that I can recall, and DS threw the fight as part of a plan. But even then he gave Orion hell: when he wasn't even trying to win. A good measure of the gap in strength between DS and Orion is in how they deal with Kalibak. DS manhandles Kalibak while Orion has fought him tooth and nail, at one point for several days before finally triumphing over him.

So I might have exaggerated the quantity of wins (against Orion and Superman anyhow), but then you've also inflated the quantity of losses and exaggerated the severity of them.

So again how is it that you think Darkseid will be useless against anyone on team 2 in h/h? He wasn't useless against Superman when they fought, and he certainly was never useless against Orion who's a peer to anyone here.

Originally posted by Stoic
I have yet to see what makes Thanos the Hulks peer in strength. Ares and Thing? No, and nice attempt at trying to cover up the Hulks simple footfall that nearly sank the Eastern Seaboard, not to mention the fact that he was reigning in the upper levels of his rage, or his casual shifting of a mega continent. When has the current Hulk/Banner shown incompetence in a H2H scrimmage? Tell me so that I can read this book.

You have yet to see what makes Thanos a peer to the Hulk in strength? Are you serious.. Pan a hulk writer when ask if Thanos is stronger than the Hulk said.. Yes… Thanos is in his own weight class. Second, we've seen Thanos mocked at The Hulk and The Thing strength like they were weak feebs. So how you can see you haven't seen him be a peer to hulk is beyond me. He overpowered both the hulk and the thing and said… "you call yourselves strong, I'm strength personified" doesn't get much more clear than that.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
There's the time he casually ***** slapped Superman and Superman retreated, admitting he'd be a fool to fight him.

That's pretty much the only pure h/h encounter they've had. No indication there that in a pure h/h match he'd be at Superman's mercy, or at the mercy of anyone on Team 2 for that matter.

So you admit that Darkseid can at least hold his own against Superman in h/h? Good since that's the crux of my argument: that saying DS is useless here and would get beaten by anyone on team 2 in h/h is off base.

Orion and DS fought pure h/h once that I can recall, and DS threw the fight as part of a plan. But even then he gave Orion hell: when he wasn't even trying to win. A good measure of the gap in strength between DS and Orion is in how they deal with Kalibak. DS manhandles Kalibak while Orion has fought him tooth and nail, at one point for several days before finally triumphing over him.

So I might have exaggerated the quantity of wins (against Orion and Superman anyhow), but then you've also inflated the quantity of losses and exaggerated the severity of them.

So again how is it that you think Darkseid will be useless against anyone on team 2 in h/h? He wasn't useless against Superman when they fought, and he certainly was never useless against Orion who's a peer to anyone here.

A good post and the fights are how I remembered them going. That said, I will also concede that I exaggerated DS liability in a fight such as this. He's does have the tools to be a decent partner, even in a only h2h fight. Obviously I like him as a partner better when he has his full powers and plays to his strengths (not h2h), but he is still useful. I will agree with you on that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have yet to see what makes Thanos a peer to the Hulk in strength? Are you serious.. Pan a hulk writer when ask if Thanos is stronger than the Hulk said.. Yes… Thanos is in his own weight class. Second, we've seen Thanos mocked at The Hulk and The Thing strength like they were weak feebs. So how you can see you haven't seen him be a peer to hulk is beyond me. He overpowered both the hulk and the thing and said… "you call yourselves strong, I'm strength personified" doesn't get much more clear than that.

Pan can say whatever he wants to say, but on panel feats are what counts here, and Thanos has yet to show that he is as strong as the current Hulk. Thanos' speech as he did that to the Thing and the Hulk was just that, a speech he never had a 1 on1 with the Hulk. When I see it I'll believe it, but as of now there is no one in this thread that can lift as much as the Hulk.

Originally posted by Nihilist
WWH being stronger than Thanos in physical strength/combat is based on what?

Why dont you list all the thing WWH did that you think Thanos cant, because there isnt one single feat WWH did that Thanos couldnt.

Originally posted by Bentley
Darkseid solos the field, the only one who can hurt him is Kal flirt

thats because darkseid is a pussy in comparison to thanos.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have yet to see what makes Thanos a peer to the Hulk in strength? Are you serious.. Pan a hulk writer when ask if Thanos is stronger than the Hulk said.. Yes… Thanos is in his own weight class. Second, we've seen Thanos mocked at The Hulk and The Thing strength like they were weak feebs. So how you can see you haven't seen him be a peer to hulk is beyond me. He overpowered both the hulk and the thing and said… "you call yourselves strong, I'm strength personified" doesn't get much more clear than that.

In all seriousness... thanos fought professor hulk. Professor hulk ain't sh** compared to his other incarnations, so I really wouldn't count him taking out that hulk.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have yet to see what makes Thanos a peer to the Hulk in strength? Are you serious.. Pan a hulk writer when ask if Thanos is stronger than the Hulk said.. Yes… Thanos is in his own weight class. Second, we've seen Thanos mocked at The Hulk and The Thing strength like they were weak feebs. So how you can see you haven't seen him be a peer to hulk is beyond me. He overpowered both the hulk and the thing and said… "you call yourselves strong, I'm strength personified" doesn't get much more clear than that.

When did Pak say that?

He didn't say that... he stated that thanos could "possibly" hang with an angry hulk but an enraged hulk would be a different story.

Kurupt twisting something to make Thanos seem more impressive?

What a shocker.

Course, and no offense carver, but you aren't the most reliable source of information.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Kurupt twisting something to make Thanos seem more impressive?

What a shocker.

Course, and no offense carver, but you aren't the most reliable source of information.

Lol... understandable but you could be right... he could be talking about something that I am unaware of.

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman is the only one in this fight, on either team, that can handle Darkseid. 😉

Originally posted by Black bolt z
The fact that WWH is stronger then thanos.

Your point?Terrax sucks

No he wouldn't have.

Originally posted by Stoic
Pan can say whatever he wants to say, but on panel feats are what counts here, and Thanos has yet to show that he is as strong as the [b]current Hulk. Thanos' speech as he did that to the Thing and the Hulk was just that, a speech he never had a 1 on1 with the Hulk. When I see it I'll believe it, but as of now there is no one in this thread that can lift as much as the Hulk. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ? Which top tier did he absolutely shred in terms of strength ? Name a few.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Hercules.She hulk both high end 100 tonners.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Hercules.She hulk both high end 100 tonners.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Both Herc and She Hulk lack top tier durability though and she Hulk is high end 100 tons

So quan, now you are going to low ball hulk just to make thanos look good? Herc admitted that hulk was holding back and that hulk could have destroyed him at any time. I really don't see why you think thanos is physically on hulks level in a physical fight. Hulk was recently matching someone in a physical fight that pulled 100 trillion tons of force from the planet. Their punches was so strong that it was creating tidal waves and tsumanis. Thanos would get annihilated in a physical fight against current hulk.

Lord Marvell disagrees 😐