Link curbs him, as always. Raziel's less than doubled his strength since last time this thread happened, Link's still thousands of times stronger thanks to the throw.
Link's also demonstrably faster, reflecting lightning in this game, and has his trademark magical protection, and the skill edge, Raziel is literally hopeless.
Que BT storming in here with claims otherwise and no actual logical arguments for why.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link curbs him, as always. Raziel's less than doubled his strength since last time this thread happened, Link's still thousands of times stronger thanks to the throw.Link's also demonstrably faster, reflecting lightning in this game, and has his trademark magical protection, and the skill edge, Raziel is literally hopeless.
Que BT storming in here with claims otherwise and no actual logical arguments for why.
Less than doubled? the top the blocks could give him was around 100 tonnes, Raziel can now lift with ease something heavier than any Link has lifted with effort.
That never happened, his magic protection has never reflected the elements Raziel will use and Raziels skills are honed in over a thousand years of excistence vs Links "training" with some apprently skilled characters.
Raziel does not use strength, but TK, tosses Link into the ground and breaks his neck.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtGanon couldn't break Link's arm and you think Raziel can break Link's neck with less than a thousandth of his strength? Lol'd.
Less than doubled? the top the blocks could give him was around 100 tonnes, Raziel can now lift with ease something heavier than any Link has lifted with effort.That never happened, his magic protection has never reflected the elements Raziel will use and Raziels skills are honed in over a thousand years of excistence vs Links "training" with some apprently skilled characters.
Raziel does not use strength, but TK, tosses Link into the ground and breaks his neck.
Link receives no training in OoT, try playing it, it's all hard earned.
Sword deflects elemental attacks as does the mirror shield, play the game.
Do you forget who did the old math for Raziel, BR agreed with me IIRC that the numbers made sense with the pushing to put Raziel at a 46 tonner. He pushed the blocks at the same speed a 46 tonner would do. Now he's toppled, not lifted, 700 tons by BR's numbers, which by the numbers Link can toss at speeds that would make MLB players green with envy.
I cant see how Ganon has the capability of it. Link getting smashed into the ground by his head is not going to end well for him.
He does not even get any training? damn hes less impressive than I thought.
The sword from what I have seen has reflected one magical attack, Thats it. Show me moar?
A lot of people, we all got a similiar figuire and Raziel does it all eaisly. It seems 700 tonnes is easy for him as well, toppled is the same in this sense because he has to lift it up for it to topple. Link cant "toss" at speeds much of anything because technically he has a hard job just lifting the thing. The rest of the scene is ignorance of physics, both for the actual lifting the way he did and propelling it despite earlier weakness AND without moving arms hardly iirc.
If he lifts it and it was ok, then he would not have made a sigh of stress/effort. Which was audiable. Also how do you justify him apprently throwing it without moving his arms becaue iirc, he hardly moves to send it moving.
how do you justify the balance, theres a guy who weghs about 200 pounds (unlikely high but still) holding 650 tonnes on his chest. This is not physically possible, I would need some convincing to agree to that.
Originally posted by CosmicCometSkyward will admittedly boost my post count. 😛
You aren't going away yet you lazy bastard. You gotta earn your retirement with this last thread, by helping Scenario. Since you also seem to prefer OOT/MM Link.And then you still have to wait for Skyward Sword, so your retirement will be temporary anyway.
Are you implying he gets all his MM shit, too? haermm
Originally posted by CosmicCometIndeed. Link, thanks to that toss, is still MUCH stronger than Raziel.
You can't accept only the first few seconds of a sequence and not the remaining few seconds.It's simple to justify. Link lifts it gingerly at first for cautionary reasons, and then realizes he can toss it at a much greater strength.
I want to see the video for this toss again, theres likely even more reasons why its illogical and ignores physics. Lifting that much weight on a guy as light as link is one thing but tossing it without hardly moving is another altogether. What with the Goron toonforce in TP and WW link sliding/squeeking down a wall , toonforce (igorance of logic or physics) seems to be something consistant in the series.
Originally posted by CosmicComet...haermm DEAR GAWD, sir. I think I love you.
Sure, Link can get all of his MM stuff since I'm not talking about just Soul Reaver 1 Raziel, but also SR2 and Defiance.
Giant's mask --> Apply chateau Romani and Nayru's love. At that point Link can basicly go about the manly task of crushing another being with his penis.