Originally posted by Omega Vision
Didn't you also think the Star Trek/X-Men crossovers were canon?
This however many people on the board especially elektra supporters, believe is cannon. Marvel did premote it as such. I really see no reason for why it not cannon, it simply like any other mini
Originally posted by Trackz
a crossover with video-game characters is canon? it's also been stated as a prologue for the video-game, a non-canon event.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugani checked some of the interviews, on ign especially, it was cited as a type of prologue and also the fact that they used EA characters, who are non-canon, and the event was never referenced outside of the mini at all. In fact theres little to suggest it WAS canon.
It was never stated to my knolwedge as prologue and it was used to premote the game, but it also gave zero indications by marvel that it was ment as anything other then cannon. also the comic came out before the game.
regardless we know logan is superior then elektra in various lvls..logan showed it when he stopped playin with elektra and no longer wanted to be trained by her.
he out reacted her jumped over her and holster his sword on her back sheath.. elektra was impressed. it all happen between her lunge attack on logan be before she landed.
Nah, the imperfects crossover is a different universe so I can see why people would use it in regards for Elektra feats but overall it holds no canonical merit to the 616 universe. There are other canon instances where Elektra has bested him handily.
Also Echo incapacitated Wolverine by copying Daredevil and Bullseye's moves while she was on her vision quest.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8308/jbnjkmkm.jpg
Its also telling that the use of attacking his nerve centers which beat him are moves she picked up from Daredevil.
Originally posted by SasuOnashe didnt best him and you seriously need to stop skewing feats.
Nah, the imperfects crossover is a different universe so I can see why people would use it in regards for Elektra feats but overall it holds no canonical merit to the 616 universe. There are other canon instances where Elektra has bested him handily.Also Echo incapacitated Wolverine by copying Daredevil and Bullseye's moves while she was on her vision quest.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8308/jbnjkmkm.jpg
she used a few nerve blows on logan they all failed. logan finally got mad and popped his claws about to fight back and she stopped fighting and started apologizing.
logan has actually blitz fought spiderman on a level DD is incapable of reaching.. Wolverine has also fought X-23 while simply defending not fighting back and she is acknowledge to have superhuman speed and combat reflexes.
Originally posted by King Castle
she didnt best him and you seriously need to stop skewing feats.she used a few nerve blows on logan they all failed. logan finally hot mad and popped his claws about to fight back and she stopped fighting and started apologizing.
A. you clearly see on the scan I posted that he was face down in the snow at one point, implying the blows worked on him.
B. when he popped his claws she had already had him in h2h and it was to tell her he wasn't an animal
C. She beat him while weak and hallucinating during the 4th day of her fast.
No matter how you argue it Wolverine comes out of it not looking superior
Originally posted by King CastleX-23 also beat Wolverine. In that fight.
Wolverine has also fought X-23 while simply defending not fighting back and she is acknowledge to have superhuman speed and combat reflexes.http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7604/808704-x235go7_super.png
Originally posted by SasuOna
Nah, the imperfects crossover is a different universe so I can see why people would use it in regards for Elektra feats but overall it holds no canonical merit to the 616 universe. There are other canon instances where Elektra has bested him handily.Also Echo incapacitated Wolverine by copying Daredevil and Bullseye's moves while she was on her vision quest.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8308/jbnjkmkm.jpg
Its also telling that the use of attacking his nerve centers which beat him are moves she picked up from Daredevil.
No she dident, in fact all it said, is it made him angry. stop with all this BS. You made up pretty much everything you have said. I notice how you ignored my responses to you becuase frankly you must know your full of crap.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
When were these times? I love to see evidences of this. Your so full of crap/ They foughten three times. Wolverine won two of them and the other one got interrupted right away.what does DD dodging capt shield throws have to do with anything? Wolverine lacking speed feats like capt is utter bs, prove it. Wolverine has numerous speed feats and I already posted one you simply could not match.
What wrong with it? Wolverine surprised spiderman because his speed was comparable. Wolverine has foughten spiderman several times and has consistently been shown as easily keeping up, the same is true with his fights with venom, lizard,puma and vermin. Wolverine always shown keeping pace with spiderman and spidermans rougues who have comparable speed.
except he does……….your just ignorant.
Lol so now your going to call pis on his feats because you dislike what they potray that’s laughable. He consistently is potrayed this way. So what now your trying to say feats against cannon fodder is more important then established character? Are you kidding me? That simply foolishness.
you know like the one you pretty much ignored.
This is almost completely irrelevant to what we, were discussing. We were debating speed, him being able to senses an attack is irrelevant and not comparable to the feat I post, which you yet to match after all this talk about how DD so much faster………….
Wolverine can do that as well anyways, and this is extremely impressive reflect feat as well.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1097/opticblastyw9.jpgThis is not comparable at all. You yet to be able to match my feat and have simply been throwing out redd herrings. You saying things arnt evidence…..I don’t even believe this feat exists.
It was a plot device. Wolverien stabbed DD, who survived it and did not fall which was a great surprise to wolverine who even goes “that’s impossible” , then DD overpowered the surprised wolverine and throw him. Oh and then Wolverine happens to hit a column that falls on him……….you try and tell me that not a plot device…….then I even posted evidences of wolverine being hit through several columns and smashed on by class 100 with out any real ill effect which you never commented on I notice……..please don’t kid your self, that was defiantly a plot device.
No it is what was stated on panel.
No it clearly did you simply disliked what it showed.
Gorgon did the same thing.
Wolverine done the same thing numerous times and gorgon completely owned him with his speed. Gorgon also out reacted the speedstir Yo-Yo before as well.
Gorgon completely dominated Elektra while toying with her on complete level beyond anything DD did.No you are clearly still the delusional one who has no idea what he talking about.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0he was defensive while she was actively trying to kill him. people like to ignore his CIS between fights with the likes of Elektra and x 23. he doesnt want to kill them or hurt them.
X-23 also beat Wolverine. In that fight.
Logan has stated to Nightcrawler that he has to hold back his hits or risk killing his friends the painful blows his team mates feel from him are held back hits to keep from breaking bones and killing.
she isnt better fighter as wolverine its his personality to screwed him up when facing her nothing else. Wolverine beat her inside the clun where they 1st met he also grabbed her wrist in mid attack and told her who was overall better.
anyways.. i like this scan.
